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The Outing of Mary Carberry


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Mary Carberry gathers papers exposing her as ‘Maria Divine Mercy’

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Voice analysis confirms Mary Carberry is Maria Divine Mercy

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Maria Divine Mercy:

The Woman Behind the Curtain

Original post — 11 November 2013. Revised 30 November.  Since Nov. 8, 2010, a woman identifying herself as Maria Divine Mercy, a Catholic messenger from God and the Last Prophet, has posted nearly 1,000 messages from Jesus, the Virgin Mary and God the Father on the Website TheWarningSecondComing.com. She has nearly 35,000 international Facebook followers and dozens of worldwide geographically-local Facebook sites. The main FB site, Jesus to Mankind, shows an image of a happy Jesus as messages report of cataclysmic global devastation and Satanic influences leading to the end times and schismatic separation of her followers from the institutional church. MDMers, as her followers are known – possibly numbering hundreds of thousands – have turned into a cult-like mass of sincere, truth-seeking believers who generate plenty of formal reaction from Catholic hierarchy, religious commentators, and theologians. She has passionate advocates and adversaries.  She has averaged four visions a week for three years that repeat prophetic warnings from a hundred years-worth of seers, and adds lots of her own to the mix, creating a worldwide discussion-frenzy and divisiveness within communities and families, split for or against. Her internet site ranks as the finest-looking bunch of Web pages for any prophet since…well…ever.  She has marketing skills! But, until now nothing was known of her identity. PR GIRL GETS TAGGED

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Mary McGovern

A mosaic has formed that leads to the door step of Mary Carberry, 58, of Dublin, Ireland, who does business under her maiden name of Mary McGovern. She has four children. Two have worked for her firm, McGovernPR, including her daughter Sarah Carberry, 28, and a 27-year son, a Web page designer. The 27-year-old company, McGovernPR, has won international awards for its skill in marketing products and ideas. Other Carberry companies are CultureLink, headed by her husband, John Carberry, and Digital Future Link, headed by Sarah.  Mary, John and their adult son live in Muldowney Court, MalahideCounty, Dublin, Ireland. DEVOTEE OF SEER JOE COLEMAN Mary Carberry was a follower of the Irish psychic Joe Coleman who began receiving visions in 2009.  IrishCentral.com reported, “Before his most recent trips and visitations at Knock, Coleman worked as a healer.  He ran spiritual development courses and gave clairvoyant readings before the revenue commissioners started looking into his finances. Though he was charging €40 a session for clairvoyant readings he insisted that he never charged for any kind of information to do with his visions of the Virgin Mary.” Carberry was instrumental in promoting Coleman in broadcast and print media, may have written his book, The Message, and maintained his Web site.   It is believed she wrote a letter on Nov. 1, 2010, to Ronald Conte at CatholicPlanet.com defending Coleman and claiming, “I am the second visionary. We both see our Lady as well as her beloved son Jesus Christ.” She made a prediction later repeated by MDM: The Tribulation has already started. The second half starts at the end of 20-12/beginning of 2013.”  The correspondence is signed only “Mary” and adds, “I can’t give you my surname unfortunately.” Seven days later Maria Divine Mercy [MDM] emerged from anonymity to…more anonymity to receive her first official communication from  God and by Feb. 2011 a slickly designed Web site called thewarningsecondcoming.com went “live.”  As with Mary’s letter to Conte, the new visionary repeats the command from the Virgin Mary that the messages from heaven be published.  Since MDM emerged, Coleman says he has not seen Mary Carberry, though his current website publishes her name in a notice for a 2012 prayer meeting. CONNECTING THE DOTS There are more connections between the names McGovern – the business woman – and Carberry – the ‘visionary.’ The Irish “Independent” newspaper published this story on July 24, 2010: “An e-commerce initiative launched yesterday and aimed at the 44 million Irish-Americans has pulled off a coup by getting the backing of US internet giant AOL. Ireland-usa.com has been set up by a company called CultureLink which is owned by public relations adviser Mary McGovern and her husband John Carberry.

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Block 4 Harcourt Center, Dublin. Home to Trumpet Publishing, Coma Books, and the The Warning Second Coming/MDM enterprises.

The formation of CultureLink may have saved the Carberrys from bankruptcy.  A few months earlier, Dec. 8, 2009, the Irish Independent reported of a couple about to lose their home for falling behind on payments of their $670,000 USD mortgage. The Building Society was seeking to re-possess the $1.4 million USD home.  “[Barrister Ann Lawlor] said John and Mary Carberry, of Muldowney Court, Malahide, Co Dublin, had not kept up monthly repayments of $6,991 USD for the past 10 months and were in arrears of more than $67,000 UDS.” The court denied the repossession. BUSINESS LINKS

Breffni Cully

“Joseph Gabriel” at Oct. 6 Chicago MDM workshop

MDM’s visions are published, as commanded, in three volumes called the Book of Truth by Coma Books whose only products are the MDM line of merchandise.  Add a fourth volume for prayers. Visa and MasterCard accepted. To assure the company’s lock on income from published distribution of the messages, Coma Books copyrights the content. Jesus speaks; MDM profits. There is additional legal language protecting publication of the messages: In no event is anyone permitted to publish, distribute or otherwise reproduce in any format any of the content or copies of the content that appears on The Warning Second Coming web site. Coma Books shares the same address as Trumpet Publishing Ltd, formed by Sarah Carberry [majority interest] and Breffni Cully, 60. A blogger has identified Cully as the same Joseph Gabriel who conducted and spoke at MDM workshops in Canada and the US during late summer/fall 2013, while associates made cash-only book sales. The camera-shy Cully – recording devices and photos were forbidden from workshops – would have reason to change his identity to conceal his business relationship with Carberry that would link her to the visionary, Maria Divine Mercy.  So, we can connect Mary Carberry to Sarah Carberry to Trumpet Publications to Breffni Cully to Joseph Gabriel to the visionary MDM.

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Breffni  Cully with same tie, at a wedding event

[Edited Nov. 19:] As of January 2013 Sarah no longer owns Trumpet Publishing. In her place is Heinrich Martin Roth, 69, of Koln, Germany. Roth maintains German-language online book sales for…the visionary messages of MDM as contained in the Coma Books-published Book of Truth!  So, we connect Mary Carberry to Sarah Carberry to Trumpet Publications to Heinrich Roth to Coma Books to the visionary MDM. Coma Books and Trumpet Publishing Ltd are located at Block 4, HarcourtCenter, Harcourt Street, Dublin, the identical contact address for TheWarningSecondComing.com, the Maria Divine Mercy Website. It’s a small world. THE UNCONSCIOUS STATE OF COMA [Added Nov. 19,2013] Who really IS Coma Books, the publisher of MDM’s 3-volume Book of Truth [mail order only; sold separately]? Companies Registration Office of Ireland reports that the name “Coma Books” was officially registered in February 2013 under number 486479 – the same number assigned to Curra Building and Civil Contractors.  “Coma Books” was being used in printed copies of the book containing the visionary’s messages almost a year before it was legally registered. In early November 2013, with Sarah Carberry’s name no longer visibly connected as owner of Trumpet Publishing, SoloCheck.ie reports that Trumpet Publishing now owns the name Coma Books. And who owns Trumpet?  Heinrich Martin Roth and Breffni Cully who, as “Joseph Gabriel,” gave testimonial workshops in Canada, the United States, and Australia, claiming the “truth” of the messages of the invisible woman known as Maria Divine Mercy. [Edited NOV. 19:] Cully may own the entire visionary enterprise. On his “vCard” – an electronically-traded business card – he identifies his personal company name as The Warning Second Coming, the name used for MDM’s website. ‘Coma Books’ contracts with Magenta Ecommerce to process payment and shipping from online book sales, as Coma is a ‘virtual’ company with no office or staff. Books are shipped to 51 countries in six languages, most prominently in English and German.  Books are printed ‘on demand,’ which means they are printed after payment is received. WATCH OVER THE RHINE [Added Nov. 30, 2013] For four months, researchers gathered hundreds of pieces of information “crumbs” as an image formed revealing the mystery of “Maria Divine Mercy.”  Among the crumbs were ten names on psychic Joe Coleman’s list of contacts for a summer 2012 prayer meeting that included Mary Carberry and someone identified as “Herzmariens.” With no apparent value, the name was archived. Thanks to the work of a German researcher, we now know the significance of the one-word-named individual who likely held hands with Carberry canting prayers while Coleman communicated to the “other side.” He provides a link not only to Mary Carberry but also Maria Divine Mercy. Herzmariens is a German prayer Website formed in 2003 that promotes “visionaries.”  It means “heart of Mary.”  It is also the pen name of the Website creator – the sales agent and translator of the German edition of Maria Divine Mercy’s three-volume book of ‘visions’… …Martin Roth of Cologne, Germany! Is it merely coincidence that Herzmariens, a Coleman-following prayer buddy of Mary Carberry, turns out to be a profit-maker on the visions of Maria Divine Mercy? And could profit-maker Martin “Herzmariens” Roth have identified himself as “Heinrich” Martin Roth, also of Cologne, Germany, who, with Breffni Cully, shares directorship of Trumpet Publishing founded by Cully and Mary Carberry’s daughter Sarah?  Let’s reverse the proposition: what is the probability that that assertion is NOT true? [See Updates tab for confirmation.] THE LAND O’SEERS [Added Nov. 18, 2013] Joe Coleman is among several current Irish seers who have proven to be  frauds or remain “suspect.”  Denis O’Leary, who began seeing visions in 1988, continues to report on his relationship with the other side. He organizes “Circle of Prayer” groups throughout Ireland, similar to MDM’s “crusade of prayer” groups organized throughout the world. More well known are the visions of Christina Gallagher. In November 2009 London Daily Mail writer Philip Nolan wrote that many claim her to be “the greatest religious con trick ever perpetuated in Ireland.” Within 20 years of her first vision, the mother-of-two described as an “unremarkable housewife” went from ordinary to “fabulously wealthy” and the owner of four mansions. The Irish Sunday World reports that since 2008 Gallagher, with no visible income, resides in a $5.4 million [USD] mansion in upper-class coastal Malahide, north of Dublin, population 16,000. In the same neighborhood as Mary Carberry. Just as Gallagher’s “professional” career was ending, Maria Divine Mercy’s began. AWARD-WINNING MARKETING Mary McGovern’s – Mary Carberry’s – marketing skills were noted in an article published in the Irish Business and Leadership journal in December 2009 that announced a new online service provided by her company.  Mary McGovern remarks how skillful online content can deliver “stickiness by engaging readers on issues they care about…we produce content that stimulates online and offline debate. The key objective is to attract repeat visitors to a company’s website.”

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Happy Jesus at MDM Facebook page warns of global devastation

A year later a woman concealing her identity under the name Maria Divine Mercy demonstrates an uncanny online ability to engage readers on issues they care about. With lots of “stickiness” to keep them coming back for more.  And claims she’s receiving near-daily messages from a talking drawing of Jesus who tells her she is the last prophet. And 100,000 people say, “Amen.” This is an exceptionally remarkable textbook-study in effective marketing and public relations. SEAL OF APPROVAL [ADDED Nov. 30, 2013] More than a year into the visions, Maria Divine Mercy received a protective “seal of the living God” prayer – Number 33 – from her “Jesus” that an enterprising San Diego, California, graphic artist designed into a parchment-colored piece of paper with the prayer, related text, and graphic elements, including a prominent image of a red seal. The seal, according to Maria’s “Jesus,” is His “promise of Salvation” [a clear break from Catholic doctrine].  The paper “seal” has supernatural power to protect all who accept it up to the second coming of Christ. The seal paper, translated into 16 languages, is downloadable at TheWarningSecondComing.com to be printed and prominently displayed in homes. All seals, past, present, and future have been pre-blessed at MDM’s request by “Padre Dominic La Fleur” – King of Mercy, Canada. La Fleur writes at internetgebetskreis.com, “If they [ordained ministers] refuse [to bless the seals], I gotcha covered! Zap!” Mary had a message from her alleged Jesus to convey to the ‘seal’ artist: Jesus approves the seal and appreciates the artist’s good work. The prayer excludes mention of “Jesus” or “Lord” or “Christ.” Curiously, the  ‘seal’ artist himself dismisses any special powers assigned to the document he created, or the red-colored stamp itself, which may be purchased from the artist’s catalog of copyrighted graphics that include a symbol of Freemasonry. [Coincidentally, there are 33 degrees to Freemasonry and this is prayer 33.] On a public-viewable social media page he said in childlike fashion, “I am a commercial artist and I have thousands of stock images. The red seal is one of my stock images which existed years before any of this stuff hit the fan. The red seal is a decoration and has no more power than your FB avatar (duh).” “Hit…the…fan…no…power…duh.” Earlier this month he was asked if he made money on the seal: “I’m a commercial artist. That’s what I do.” Continuing his online discourse: “If you want me to defend MDM, you’ll have to pay me.” The artist’s comments have been deleted from live view. Researchers, however, have preserved images of the conversation which will be viewable as embedded links are added to this article. [See Updates tab for the designer’s current project.] IDENTITY CONFIRMED? In June 2013, three years after Mary Carberry separated herself from the medium Joe Coleman, Coleman received this email: [stet] “I have read a lot about Maria Divine Mercy recently. She hides behind her false title and word is out it’s Mary Carberry. She is being heavily associated with you..can you confirm any truth in this?” Coleman responded, [stet]Yes this is true, it is all over the internet, I have not seen or heard of her [Mary] in three years now, but I pray for her that she will turn back to God, the devil works in many ways to deceive people and keep them from the truth, any way I am good so far have to try stay in the state of grace, thank you for your concern I send you Mothers love and Blessings, joe Coleman  peace by yours amen.” A contributor to the Facebook page SafeHarbour, for recovering MDM followers, reports that Mary McGovern’s [Carberry] online LinkedIn photo was shown to Joe Coleman who confirmed that the photo was a younger Mary Carberry. [LinkedIn is a social network site for business professionals.  Mary lists among her special interests, “…reading, especially knife-edge thrillers.”] A breakthrough revelation of MDM’s identity “went viral” since its posting Nov. 1. A detailed letter, written by someone with Carberry family contacts, identified Mary Carberry as Maria Divine Mercy. The extent of personal information in the message makes a credible case for its authenticity. Researchers contributing to this story know her personally. The author writes that Mary never had visions until she met Joe Coleman. [stet:] “Joe Coleman’s infestation definitely spilled onto Mary Carberry and soon she too began to have visions. In fact a number of people associated with this medium Joe Coleman began to have visions including Keith who was killed in a car accident. If people are not in the State of Grace and start associating with mediums, false  prophets, well then it is no surprise that they too become infested with the demonic which often leads to visions, prophecies etc but they are not from God, they are totally FALSE.” Is Mary McGovern Carberry – the international marketing/public relations award-winner – the real MDM? Or the Personna concealing one or more other “visionaries”? “PRIEST” ADDS SUPPORT  [Added Nov. 16, 2013] MDM’s visions earned credibility early-on from Facebook postings contributed by “Fr. Marie-Paul,” who identified himself as a Catholic priest. He was literate, persuasive, and provided convincing theological support.  But Fr. Marie-Paul would slip references to other messages not so believable, tying MDM with prior visionaries including condemned deceased seer Veronica Leuken, from Bayside, New York, and the Australian cultist William Kamm, who does business as “the Little Pebble.” Kamm  is serving prison time for crimes against two underage girls and is not scheduled for release until 2015.  Kamm himself aggressively promotes MDM’s messages on his Website, of which there is little else left, and on YouTube videos through an intermediary. He claims he will be the last Pope. Kamm-the-Pebble, 63, has a newer name, William Costellia, which may help establish a post-prison identity that separates him from the subject of the book A Wolf Among the Sheep: Australian Cult Leader William Kamm.  Still an active visionary communicating from his prison cell, his messages remarkably paralleled the messages from Maria Divine Mercy. Grow your own food, money will be worthless, buy gold and silver, the end is near. And as to ‘Fr. Marie-Paul,’ he wasn’t really a priest after all, but rather a member of the William “the Pebble” Kamm cult. When Facebook followers increasingly questioned his priestly status, the administrator of the official MDM Facebook page, Jesus to Mankind, sought advice directly from Maria Divine Mercy who spoke directly to Jesus who said, directly, the fake priest’s contribution was “important.” Maria emails, “[Fr. Marie-Paul] added great credibility to the messages. I was sad to see him go and I miss his posts.” Yes, we have a copy of the email. [Added Nov. 17:] The fake priest, Marie-Paul, continues to promote MDM messages under different names and different Web sites including BiblicalFalseProphet, where he claims that Pope Francis is an ally of the end-times anti-Christ.  And that the anti-Christ is a stuttering American of East Indian ancestry who authors business books that address world hunger. And he’s sure of this. And Maria’s Jesus calls his contributions “important.”

William “The Pebble” Kamm, prison release date 2015

UNWEAVING THE WEB – Added Nov. 16, 2013 The story of the future Pope and convicted rapist William Kamm, whose heavenly messages pre-visioned those of MDM, now takes an interesting and curious person-to-person journey to the House of Carberry.  But to get there, we must go back to the confident and handsome 60-year-old who spoke at the Maria Divine Mercy workshops under the assumed name of Joseph Gabriel. Breffni Cully, a retired dentist, business man, and cyclist enthusiast [“the flying dentist”], spoke excitedly of the visions of the Irish seer, bringing with him the Jesus-picture that talks to the visionary. He is engaged in a number of business ventures, including Pharmanex, a division of the multi-level marketing company Nu Skin, and Trumpet Publishing Limited, with whom he shared ownership with Mary Carberry’s daughter, Sarah. In 2007, he got into a little legal trouble.  The Inishowen News of Donegal, Ireland, reported that Cully was involved in a “medical card scheme” that earned him $144,504 [USD]. With all his relationships, personal and business, he lists only two “friends” on his Google+ page. His estate manager and Christine Lammerman. Christine Lammermann is the former mother-in-law of the Little Pebble, William Kamm!  What are the odds that Kamm-the-cultist would have a relative who is both a personal friend of a Carberry business partner and a public-speaking advocate of the ‘visionary’ Maria Divine Mercy? THE LAMMERMANN LINK  [Added Nov. 16, 2013] In 1991 Lammermann and daughter Bettina immigrated to Australia from Munich, Germany, to join the Little Pebble’s [Kamm’s] commune.  At its peak, the order Kamm founded in 1983 had an estimated 100,000 followers.  Bettina, at 17, became Kamm’s “secret mystical wife” and “Queen of the Cult.” She gave birth to six of Kamm’s 16 children  – from 8 “wives” – before “divorcing” him in 2006, a year into his prison term. Bettina, now 40, has moved far from the maddening crowd.  Her mother remained in the commune for another seven years and, until recently, used its address on Koloona Drive, Cambewarra, New South Wales, for her internet marketing business. Lammerman, an online marketing entrepreneur of natural health and other products, is also an organizer of the Catholic “Our Lady of Refuge” organization inspired by German Bishop Ralph Napierski who unsuccessfully attempted to participate in the conclave to elect the current Pope.  Napierski isn’t a real bishop, but he dresses as one. In mid-November 2011 Maria Divine Mercy’s visions began to appear on Lammermann’s Website with the same frequency as they appear at the official MDM Website. But there is no attribution to MDM or reference or link to her site. At one point, Lammermann found it necessary to specifically deny claims she wrote the messages. In email Lammermann seems to admit to the authorship of one MDM prayer, now numbering 125.  In reference to prayer number 31 she comments, “I hope you like what I wrote.” We know from audio interviews she’s given, by her admission and accent, that the “Last Prophet” Maria Divine Mercy is an Irish business woman with children. But might she be getting a little help from her friends? Better yet, is this a brokered marketing scheme between an Australian cultist, an Irish businessman, and a marketing/pr firm, all seeking to advance their own agendas? A web of deceit is unraveling. HE SAID, SHE SAID [Added Nov. 30, 2013] We’ve noted that the value of particular pieces of information found on the trail leading to the identity of Maria Divine Mercy is not always apparent.  As pieces gather to form patterns the importance of a clue found months ago may rise or diminish. Herzmariens, for example, a prayer partner of Mary Carberry, had no value until the name was attached to Martin Roth, a translator and seller of MDM books, and Roth’s name rose in value when Heinrich Martin Roth was identified as a business partner of Breffni Cully in the publishing of MDM books. And so it was with Christine Lammermann who was “friended” by the Irish retired dentist Breffni Cully on his Google+ page.  Research on her leads us to explore the doomsday cult leader William Kamm to whom Lammermann surrendered  her 17-year-old daughter in “mystical” marriage, and Kamm reminds us of “Marie-Paul,” who provided theological defense for the early messages of Marie Divine Mercy before he was suspected as a fake-priest in Kamm’s cult. William Kamm’s value rises further from the discovery of correspondence he issued from his prison cell on Nov. 1 containing a new “message from Jesus.”  It was sent through email by his fake “bishop” Malcolm Broussard to a private group. This new message from Kamm’s “Jesus” is remarkably identical in substance, phrasing  and in particular use of terms and words to messages from MDM  – “Billions will be saved!”  In Kamm’s message “Jesus” refers twice to Maria Divine Mercy. “Remember what I told you through my prophet Maria Divine Mercy…Pray for Maria Divine Mercy, my Last Prophet.” [An earlier message is online] If Kamm is genuine and MDM is genuine, God might be their common source. But we know Kamm is an unrepentant pedophile and excommunicated Catholic. In 1981 at age 32, before he transformed into “the Pebble,” he frequented the Bayside, New York, alleged “apparition” site, kissing the girls and baring his chest.  Canadian journalist Anne Cillis was there. She writes in “Bayside Backstage” [Archangel Press, 1986] that she told Kamm, “Morally speaking, you are a disaster…either you leave or we will kick you out.” Cillis continues, “He then walked over to the door and put his hand on his hip in this sexy pose and said: ‘Well, I guess it’s time Australia got its own seer.’ ” The incident is related here. Kamm returned to Australia, began his sect as the Order of St. Charbel, and in June 2003 earned the condemnation of Bishop Peter William Ingham of Australia who issued a formal decree stating that Catholics who follow the ministry of the “so-called Order of St. Charbel, founded by William Kamm…place themselves outside the Catholic Church and are by that fact excommunicated.” Does Bishop Ingham’s excommunication implicitly apply to the repackaged Kamm in the form of Maria Divine Mercy? Why is Kamm so obvious in his support of MDM, even claiming that he, in return, is endorsed by her?  Is Kamm communicating to MDM from prison through an intermediary? Researchers have credible information that supports that contention. [See Update tab for new revelations.] CHURCH REACTION MDM’s messages from heaven have been publicly condemned by Catholic bishops in several countries where the cult has evidenced itself. But the Irish bishops, who have jurisdiction over Mary, have not spoken publicly.  And the silence is puzzling.  But the Nov. 1 writer, cited above, says Dublin Archbishop Diarmuid Martin knows of the woman and assigned an Irish exorcist priest to meet her and examine her messages. She writes, “He told her that her messages were not from God, that they were utterly FALSE.” IS IT OVER YET? Will MDMers ever be convinced the scam is up?  Or will these messages extend far into the future?  The seers of Necedah, Wisconsin and later Bayside, New York, each reported visions for 20 years. Both condemned. There are hundreds of others. Some good; some not so good.   Followers speak of the promotion of Catholic devotions, the emphasis on prayer, fasting, penance, recitation of the Rosary and the Divine Mercy Chaplet. There are more than 125 MDM prayers that form a Crusade of Prayer that circles the world. And it’s only three years old! This sure sounds like Jesus’ work. Or another diabolical trick to deceive faithful and sincere truth-seekers. There is honey in the trap. The financial stress the Carberrys endured evidenced by the threat of the loss of their home, and the social and business embarrassment, may have created an emotional foundation that pushed Mary to seek spiritual comfort. Perhaps Mary’s association with Joe Coleman suggested her own transcendental project.  She had the in-family talent and international contacts to market to a world starved for spiritual clarity. I don’t believe Mary or Joe or other “seers” set out initially to deceive. The sincerity in the eyes of Joe Coleman kneeling in prayer wins hearts. The prayers and messages from those behind the curtain of Maria Divine Mercy capture minds and souls.  But we know the devil will embrace his enemy and betray his friends in the grand exercise of wickedness and entrapment. We are told that in the end even the elect will be deceived.   The time is ripe with befuddlement and desperate for leadership. For a time, I believed these messages were authentic. But there were problems I kept dismissing. Contradictions. Harsh language. Even problems with sentence structure and punctuation! [Is no one checking these for grammar?] Forget theological arguments: We live in an age dispossessed of doctrinal allegiance – at the highest levels!  It is the person of Mary Carberry that speaks to the deceit. Mary and John have a beautiful, intelligent and talented family. Pray they are sheltered from harm as a consequence of these revelations.  And that she comes clean soon. It’s time to lift the curtain. Saseen ——————– Research is ongoing with near-daily new discoveries. Embedded links will be added soon, connecting statements with supporting documentation, including preserved screen shots of Websites that are now disappearing from live access or being altered since the first appearance of this article on Nov. 11.   The author lives in the United States and has no personal or business relationship with the Carberrys or any of the individuals named.  In his quest to determine the genuineness of the messages, which more and more promoted a schismatic split from the Catholic Church, he discovered a cadre of courageous inquirers – all faithful Catholics – in many countries engaged in ongoing research into the mystery of the veiled woman. This article is a result of their research.  If you have new information, please add it to the comment box [requests for confidence will be respected] or post it at one of the Facebook pages devoted to assisting former MDMers.  All comments are read. The date at top will change to indicate the addition of new information.  This article should be understood as a compassionate gesture to those perpetuating these messages and to those victimized by them.  God Help Us All.


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  1. God bless you all team members for putting these piece of information together to help us in our faith and brothen knowledge about sister Maria and her service.Keep it up the Good work and the Lord will bless you all in a special ways,Goodmorning

  2. Alex Lim

    Excellent investigative work, not that they’re new to me, but you were able to tie everything together. I don’t know where you’ve been, but right from the start, the messages and prayers are anything but brilliant. And the only people whose hearts and souls have been captured are those with a poor understanding of the Catholic Catechism. You know it right away when the “seal of Living God” is just a piece of paper that you can download over the internet. Or that she would say that murder is punishable by castration. Or that people can redeem themselves in the eyes of God when even a 12-year old schooled in Catechism knows that it took no less than the Son of God made flesh to redeem humanity. Just the tip of her BS,

  3. Mashina

    Yes well written ando the point. This is very good.

  4. Here is a link to Mary McGovern Carberry’s photo from a 2009 story about her company in an online business journal in Ireland:

  5. Fr. Peter Klos

    Very good articele.

  6. Christel Hoffman

    Thank you for this article. I hope it will contribute to diminish these false messages as much as possible. The messages cause division, within families, but also amongst Catholics, between Catholics and the Church and the vicar of the Church, our Pope Francis. It is remarkable that followers of the John Carberry started receiving visions and messages too. This is contrary to the way God works, God does not mingle vineyards, or let one vineyards flow from another, although vineyards may be connected. If Mary Carberry/McGovern receives messages is comes from dark forces, demons, those who not reached Purgatory, the dead who play with and influence the living who got strayed. A many got strayed, being not rooted or only partly in the Lord. We must pray for her and her family, because once their souls really get lost, there is no return. Hell is for eternity, no matter what, we must keep a person get lost towards this eternal fire.

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  8. Ryan

    Fantastic work!
    Glad she has been uncovered. Very grateful for this article.
    May she be revealed to all as the scammer she is.
    God bless!

  9. Ray

    The interesting thing about this article is though well written it doesn’t give any proof in what he (the author?)is saying. It is all speculation. The part that he omits is the fact that the messages ask for, the Rosary, the Devine Mercy Chaplet as well as the prayers that come from the messages, to be said daily. The author, ALS? is whom? anyone can claim whatever they wish but the allegations needs to be authenticated. The proof in the messages will come in time.

  10. julie

    Hi I have read this crap and have contacted the people you mentioned above
    I hope you like the feeling of a lawsuit

  11. Joycauser

    What else did the excorcist discover?

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  14. Maria Johannes Josef von Plaz

    Wo gibts da jetzt ein Problem? Hat der Autor jetzt die Masern bekommen, oder wächst ihm jetzt vor lauter Schaddenfreude ein Kaktus aus seinem Gsicht, hoffe nicht. Gott möge sich seiner erbarmen. Gelobt sei sein Name in Ewigkeit Amen

  15. Fr. Duffy fighting 69th

    Nothing in this story contradicts the efficacy of the MDM messages. Those of us who have been following events closely found these messages confirming of revelations we already had about the Church. And the messages also substantiated the clear indications that we are living in the endtimes as described in the Book of Revelation and Catholic prophecy. The only deception going on here is the effort to discredit MDM. Jesus is Lord.

    • Duffy you posted….”And the messages also substantiated the clear indications that we are living in the endtimes as described in the Book of Revelation and Catholic prophecy.”

      So did we really expect Satan to tell us any different? No one would read the messages if they were mundane. Of course Satan knows what lies ahead..in an obscure way that is. MDM’s prophecies just didn’t materialise!

      Mary Carberry told us in March 2011 “The hours are ticking now [for the Warning].”

      The same month she also wrote.. “The prophecies given at Garabandal [about the Warning] will now become a reality. Prepare now for this event for you have only A FEW MONTHS left to prepare your souls.”

      In June 2011 we were told …”the warning is close…This event will take place in the NEXT FEW MONTHS” By the way this message was removed from the site, but I took a photoshot before it was conveniently removed! God doesn’t play about like this. These were very serious warnings that the followers took notice of and many began preparations, and many were scared! And just to keep them still interested and on their toes she provided another message in August that same year.’..”..during 2011 the year of the PURIFICATION.” mdm’s ‘jesus’ added. in October 2011.. “This… the Warning… is the Purification I have spoken about.”

      So more than once we were told 2011 is the year of the Warning. And no… according to Conchita it isn’t something that can be prayed away because it is a great day of mercy for mankind, and is needed! The time for the Warning is “fixed” and cannot be changed… so here we have more red flags.

      Regarding the apparitions that were to take place all over the world at famous apparition sites…???? Well what happened? According to a very good friend of Conchita’s she has said that it won’r happen….”.Our Lady will not appear in Garabandal!”

  16. Anita

    Jesus said,”Be ware of false prophets, who come in sheep’s clothing”. She is obviously one of them. Being associated with that occult Joe Coleman, is further proof her visions are false. Occult people can mimic whatever gifts Godly persons have, except that they are coming from an evil source rather than from God.

  17. I’ll quote loosely from Scripture – leave them alone- if it is not of God, it will dissipate on it’s own….if it is truly of God, then you will not be able to stop it, and you may find yourself fighting against God Himself.

  18. Thank you for this information. At first the messages sounded authentic. However, later I started to “see” “red flags” go up! There are several of my friends who have fallen for this. I tried to warn them, but they wouldn’t listen. I just pray for them to see God’s light and be satisfied to believe and live the Gospel; to be faithful in receiving the Sacraments, especially Penance and Holy Eucharist. What else do we need?

  19. Rebecca

    The messages to MDM are 100% from heaven!!!

  20. Josefina Ponciano

    I am not at all surprised by the messages in the warning because it has been foretold in the Bible more than 2000 yrs ago, it was repeatedly reminded to us by the Blessed Virgin Mary through Fr. Stefano Gobbi in the book “To the Priests Our Lady’s Beloved Son” since 1973 -1997; Jesus Himself gave also messages to a certain seer named Dr. Mary Even in 1997 of which these books were given imprimatur and nihil obstat. Also if you are not aware of the book by Marie Caree entitled “AA 1025” then you better read all these books and correlate them with the Bible and global events going on. The messages in thewarningsecondcoming have nothing contrary to the teachings of the church. It is not about the messenger, its about the message of SALVATION of billions of souls through payers. It is about knowing and preparing so that we will not be deceived by the false prophets and antichrist who talks on humanism without God. It is about the new heaven and the new earth… New Paradise mentioned in Revelation.

  21. chad

    if you believe, then this article doesn’t matter, if you don’t believe, then this article doesn’t mean anything either, so let the holy spirit guide us all.

  22. Kathleen

    Thanks be to God for this clarifying article. I have gone back and forth on this and couldn’t understand her anominity. That was the biggest flaw along with what did seem like harshnest in some of messages. What confused me was the accurate prophesying of Pope Benedict “retiring”. I begged God to enlighten me just last night as to MDM’s authenticity. This is the proof I needed. God bless you Saseen! I can be at peace at last.

  23. chad

    sorry, i am a believer in mdm. chad.

  24. Jenny O'Dea

    Hello I too have been following these messages and was recently having a few doubts. I will keep an open mind—not one way or the other.

    • Alex Lim

      Right from the start, I already knew MDM was false. Because there is no such thing as a prophet from God who hides behind anonymity and effectively insults the divine provenance that God puts over His prophets. Second, when I started reading about her “seal of the living god” which you can download over the internet, that was it. This MDM is a fraud. What nailed her coffin was her obvious ignorance about the indefectibility of the Church and the canonical improbability of a pope being the false prophet.

      Christ said: “You are the rock on which I will build My Church, and the gates of hell will not prevail.” (Mathew 16:18) A false prophet sitting on the Throne of Peter means that the gates of hell have prevailed. Now that makes Christ a liar. Only the devil loves to make Christ a liar.

    • There is no room for any doubts now Jenny..she is false!

  25. Anonymous

    Thank You! God Bless You!

  26. Jenny O'Dea

    Will still continue with daily rosary, divine mercy chaplet, frequent mass and Holy Hours. You can’t go wrong with these! !

  27. John

    The Devil doesn’t instruct any Prophets in this World to Pray, Specially to pray the Rosary And The Divine Mercy Chaplet. That’s Impossible.

    Amos 3:7
    7 (Indeed, the Lord GOD does nothing without revealing his plan to his servants the prophets.)

    • Pauline

      This is clever tactic of the devil to draw the faithful into the trap…by telling them to pray the rosary, chaplet etc, people naturally stop and think that he wouldn’t ever do that. but, therein lies the clever tactic he is using to deceive as many of the faithful that he can. The prince of lies mixes some truth with falsehood, which makes it sound more authentic, and much easier to to deceive souls..

    • Alex Lim

      Really, do you know what deception means? It means mixing the truth with lies, piety with blasphemy. The devil quotes scripture and you know what? He asks for prayers because he knows your prayers in a state of mortal sin will never reach God. When you embrace MDM, you commit the mortal sins of heresy and schism, and incur automatic excommunication latae sententiae. And when you attend mass and take Holy Communion in the state of mortal sin, you blaspheme God and violate the 2nd commandment and commit more mortal sins. A mortal sinner can pray all he likes and commits blasphemy as his prayers, other than a prayer of contrition to return to sanctifying grace for himself, will never reach God. The Devil loves you for that.

    • Alex Lim

      Oh, BTW, the devil is the Prince of Deception, the Father of All Lies. MDM will ask you to pray the rosary and the divine chaplet. She even has her crusade prayers. I don’t think any Catholic will follow MDM if she asked you not to pray. Will you follow MDM if she asks you to abandon prayer? You see, the devil comes in pleasing shapes and forms, the better to deceive.

      • María Sackmann

        You are actually inspired, Alex !! I know demon´s tricks at first sight, I helped with prayer an Exorcist four years… he knows, he and his minions, can´t ever reach God´s light

    • John here is a message off another false visionary who predicted Pope Benedict was the anti-pope…yet he urged prayer and devotions too!

      Pope Benedict XV1 is the “Deceiver” the “Anti-Pope”….”Do not allow yourselves to be deceived for the deceiver is among you. Rise up, My children, and hold on to the Truth of My Ways; do not forget My servant, John Paul II. Do not forget the words that he has given to you for they are My Words given to bring you through these times.”

      “I have told you that Saint Joseph with the Apostles and Disciples of My Most Holy Mother shall begin and maintain the True Catholic Faith within the Remnant Church because of the schism the Anti-Pope shall foster, due to his heresies. Saint Joseph has gathered people together to pray. He will continue to assist all of you who wish to be faithful to the Dogma and Traditions of the Holy Roman Catholic Church and Faith to join together, to have the Sacraments, and Priestly counsel from Holy, Marian, Priests. That is why I have asked and asked you to seek out Holy Priests who would serve the True Church in the days before and after the Warning, and on to the three days of darkness.
      · I have told you to make your homes holy, to pray each day together in your homes.
      · I have asked you to obtain images of the Immaculate Heart of Mary and the Sacred Heart of Jesus for each room.
      · I have asked you to put crucifixes and Saint Benedict medals on all windows and doors.
      · I have asked you to obtain and keep blessed candles for light and warmth.
      · I have asked you to obtain images of the Saints, Angels and maintain your homes free of evil by the frequent use of Holy water sprinkled throughout your homes.
      · I have asked you to keep extra Rosaries and prayer books on hand.”

      So as we see Satan does ‘allow’ pious devotions if in the end he can achieve his goal, so we can never take this as proof that a message is genuine. This is why we need the Church – and why every genuine seer has submitted themselves and their writings to the Church that Christ founded.

  28. the mdm messages have inculcated good and faithful catholics with a subtle stubborness regarding Pope francis.They are convinced he is the ANTI POPE to usher in the anti Christ.They feed off her messages waiting for him to mess up and gloat on the I told you so attitude.Here in Australia prayer groups have been DIVIDED,whereby the same faithful members will not communicate.Some of them BLOCK their ears when PRAYERS are said for the Holy Fathers intention after the rosary.
    This tragic situation has broken my heart,because the remnant marian groups are NOw being divided.
    We need unity more than ever.Our Ladys army is suffering enough,now the final blow,division from within.
    I beg all sides to reconsider,let MDM go stop feeding yourselves on her messages which are largely critical,negative,and only her elite followers will find salvation.
    The typical PERSECUTION stunts They believe they are all victim souls as you TRY to make them see reason.God help us Yolanda Australia

    • María Sackmann

      well said, Yolanda !!!

    • Pauline

      “Divide & conquer” a well known tactic of the evil one! He has turned his attention to Our Lady’s marian groups now…be very watchful and careful lest you be deceived!

      • amit goyal

        Good to read all these comments . I ve been going tru these msg for sometime . I think we still can ‘t judge . For the devil cannot say that one must follow the sacraments and pray to God or more clearly Jesus . Is it not possible that Jesus has given different msgs to different seers etc. .I ve even read Vassulas msgs upto the last volume and also medjugorje .for so many years now. In allthese its the emphasis is on sacraments ,Holy Mass ,rosary etc . So we ve to wait for some more time as she tells all that has been given to us in the Gospels about the end times . Surely the devilwill not support the Gospel ,sacrament etc . May be I will be proved wrong .STILL NO HARM IN SAYING THESE PRAYERS and DOING YOUR BIT IN SAVING SOULS !! May GOD BLESS ALL OF US AND SEE YOU ALL IN HEAVEN !!!

  29. The truth is always in the words of the messages. Not in all things around. To me it is very logical that Heaven has chosen someone with skills to distribute these very important massages all over the world because time is short. I follow the messages already for 2,5 years. It is for sure that satan is not able to explain in such depts were we have to pray for. We know that satan is given, by God our Father, the possibility to act as an angel of light and will ask us to pray and to fast, but has not the capability to talk like Mary or Jesus. It is up to everyone to search out the truth. We can not rely on authority of someone because of the abuse of authority in church cycles and politics everywhere in this time. Their is only the truth we have to search out and who is laid down in the words. Until now I couldn’t find untruth in these messages. Therefor nothing changes by this discovery.
    B. Roosen
    the Netherlands

    • I’ll keep repeating this until it finally sinks in….Satan allows prayers if in the end he can get what he wants..YOUR SOULS! Here is proof….

      This was written by a false seer some years ago…

      “Soon, now your Holy Father will be replaced with one who is not of Me. And he will change much, he will begin the destruction of My Church in earnest. Are you ready to fight for the Truth? Many will fall in this time. Pray much, children, that you are not one of them. I Love you and I ask that you be willing to do all that I ask. I Love you.”

      “I have told you that Saint Joseph with the Apostles and Disciples of My Most Holy Mother shall begin and maintain the True Catholic Faith within the Remnant Church because of the schism the Anti-Pope shall foster, due to his heresies. Saint Joseph has gathered people together to pray. He will continue to assist all of you who wish to be faithful to the Dogma and Traditions of the Holy Roman Catholic Church and Faith to join together, to have the Sacraments, and Priestly counsel from Holy, Marian, Priests. That is why I have asked and asked you to seek out Holy Priests who would serve the True Church in the days before and after the Warning, and on to the three days of darkness.

      ·From the same false prophet…” I have told you to make your homes holy, to pray each day together in your homes.
      · I have asked you to obtain images of the Immaculate Heart of Mary and the Sacred Heart of Jesus for each room.
      · I have asked you to put crucifixes and Saint Benedict medals on all windows and doors.
      · I have asked you to obtain and keep blessed candles for light and warmth.
      · I have asked you to obtain images of the Saints, Angels and maintain your homes free of evil by the frequent use of Holy water sprinkled throughout your homes.
      · I have asked you to keep extra Rosaries and prayer books on hand.”

      So as we can see Satan does ‘allow’ prayers…and how do we know this is from a false seer…read on….

      From the false prophet….” Benedict is the “Deceiver” the “Anti-Pope”….”Do not allow yourselves to be deceived for the deceiver is among you. Rise up, My children, and hold on to the Truth of My Ways; do not forget My servant, John Paul II. Do not forget the words that he has given to you for they are My Words given to bring you through these times.”

      There are many untruths in the messages..For an example. MDM says that “Peter founded the Church.” We will have our “tongues cut out” if we do not believe in the messages. The Church has always taught that we do not have to believe in Private Revelation…there are so many other errors too…and the silliest is that the Holy family toured Europe and the Middle East… on a donkey?

      Waken up please from the great deception you are involved in – Satan is giving you empty promises.

  30. marg

    Very informative!

  31. and there is Medjugoroie and its cults….Catholics must beware of all..and discern…………how many messages from there? How many Catholics are aware of certain questionable characters associated with the unapproved apparition and messages? The devil gives half truths…..The Church is infiltrated….

    • Angela Rizzo

      The jury is still out on Medjugorje Michael Balcom and I would never compare those messages to MDM’s…Medjugorje always speaks about obedience to the magisterium of the Church, the importance of the Sacraments and traditional catholic prayer…the messages are not doom and gloom but are spiritual direction from a loving mother to her children…I will abide by whatever decision the church makes regarding Medjugorje but again, MDM has set out to deceive and to cause schism and Medjugorje has NOT!!

  32. Sherri

    Thank you for this warning and No One should follow this women!!!!

  33. Kevin Symonds

    Excellent work! I hope this all turns out to be true!

  34. Anne

    Read the Gospel reading for 11/14. “Do not go, do not follow them”. Follow the Lord’s words and don’t worry.

  35. Bonnie in U.S.

    I knew she was a fraud in her Oct 2, 2011 post. First by the title; ‘Rejoice when the sky explodes’. First, when the sky ‘explodes’ it is not a good thing, it is a very bad thing. And as Proverbs 17:5 says, “He who mocks the poor blasphemes his Maker; he who is glad at calamity will not go unpunished.” So if you are glad (rejoice) at calamity (sky explodes), you will be punished. Second, in the blog she writes ‘have blessed candles everywhere’. One, you cannot have blessed candles ‘everywhere’, it is impossible, so Jesus wouldn’t say that, and two, the visions for the Warning only say ‘a blessed candle’. ‘A’ or ‘one’. Some poor old devout women read this woman’s false blog and go and spend their savings to buy candles for everywhere. Remember Jesus’ warning in Matt 24:23-26 “23 Then if any man shall say to you, Lo here is Christ, or there: do not believe him. 24 For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. 25 Behold I have told it to you, beforehand. 26 If therefore they shall say to you, Behold he is in the desert: go not out. Behold he is in the closets: believe it not.”
    MDM = Fraud, not Jesus.

  36. George

    Thanks for finally unmasking the fraud. Well done !

  37. Gloria

    I have been reading Mary Mcgoverns messages for some time now- i was never fooled by them. I knew from the the beginning that this was false messages. There is only one Divine Mercy and that is Jesus Christ himself. This report is shocking.!!!!

  38. Theresa

    Sadly the author of this blog has concocted the bulk of this piece, fabricating a Mary with a photo shoot but offers no substantiating proof. Truly sad that the author (I suspect R. Conte) so capriciously and with malice seeks to tear down innocent people. Shaking my head at his desperation.

  39. Remnant Clergy

    Even *if* everything was true, this is merely an ad hominum attack. Who are you to say who God will pick as a prophet? He has picked tent makers and tree dressers and shepherds, for example. So you think Francis is correct when he says Jesus became a sinner. Don’t you know blasphemy when you see it? No. Do you think that a person can follow whatever he believes is right can be saved, including atheists who reject the very existence of God? How blind you are. However, God’s Mercy is great and you will understand your great errors at the Warning. It may be difficult by then if you follow the coming abomination of desolation, the invalidation of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, when it is paganized.

    • Alex Lim

      The pope said in Italian:

      “La vera riconciliazione è che Dio, in Cristo, ha preso i nostri peccati e Lui si è fatto peccato per noi.”

      In English, “True reconciliation is that God in Christ took our sins and He became sin for us.”

      NOT SINNER, because the word “peccato” is sin. The Pope did not use “peccatore” which means sinner. So the correct translation coincides perfectly with 2Cor 5:21:

      “God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.”


      Poor Remannt Clergy, you so easily fall into the secular press which has the penchant of mistranslating the statement of the Pope. If you knew scriptures you would have done some digging. But you’re obviously another MDM ignoramus minion.

      • María Sackmann

        Thank you, Alex Lim, for explaining this arguments to those that twist words !

      • Look up the *cached* version of the Vatican site by googling Francis Jesus became the sinner. Others noticed this too, e.g. one example at Catholic Answers Forums. Editing done to cover up the tracks. (It seems posting links fails here)

    • Alex Lim

      The only blasphemy here is MDM asking you to pray or take communion in the state of excommunication for the mortal sins of heresy and schism and active scandal from spreading message without church approval.

      “At the Warning? Your stupid fake christ has been predicting a copy of the Garabandal messages on the Great Warning all year round in 2011 and was supposed to occur during that year. Only a false prophet can’t get her predictions right and made Christ a liar.

      • gigi

        I am with you Remant Clergy. These people can not distinguish their left from their right.

      • gigi

        keep on covering up the homily of PF and there are more to come that you can hardly cover those up anymore…..but then, you still keep your heart hardened because you choose to be….you are paid by it anyway.

  40. John Fowler

    I am glad at last the truth has emerged.

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  47. Brad

    Good work. Thanks for that investigative reporting. The messages are definitely false because they contain numerous examples of doctrinal error. No authentic message can contain doctrinal error. Medjugorje, by the way, contains no messages with doctrinal error…that is not to say that proves it true though.

  48. gerald

    You have said nothing here that is factual. It is all conjecture on your part. You even go so far as to say “Mary may be an authentic bridge from this side to the other, but it isn’t God talking.” How in heavens name would you know this? Do you have a direct link to the “other side”?

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