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Maria Divine Mercy: The Woman Behind the Curtain

Original post — 11 November 2013. Revised 30 November. 

Since Nov. 8, 2010, a woman identifying herself as Maria Divine Mercy, a Catholic messenger from God and the Last Prophet, has posted nearly 1,000 messages from Jesus, the Virgin Mary and God the Father on the Website TheWarningSecondComing.com. She has nearly 35,000 international Facebook followers and dozens of worldwide geographically-local Facebook sites. The main FB site, Jesus to Mankind, shows an image of a happy Jesus as messages report of cataclysmic global devastation and Satanic influences leading to the end times and schismatic separation of her followers from the institutional church.

MDMers, as her followers are known – possibly numbering hundreds of thousands – have turned into a cult-like mass of sincere, truth-seeking believers who generate plenty of formal reaction from Catholic hierarchy, religious commentators, and theologians. She has passionate advocates and adversaries.  She has averaged four visions a week for three years that repeat prophetic warnings from a hundred years-worth of seers, and adds lots of her own to the mix, creating a worldwide discussion-frenzy and divisiveness within communities and families, split for or against. Her internet site ranks as the finest-looking bunch of Web pages for any prophet since…well…ever.  She has marketing skills! But, until now nothing was known of her identity.

PR GIRL GETS TAGGED

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Mary McGovern

A mosaic has formed that leads to the door step of Mary Carberry, 58, of Dublin, Ireland, who does business under her maiden name of Mary McGovern. She has four children. Two have worked for her firm, McGovernPR, including her daughter Sarah Carberry, 28, and a 27-year son, a Web page designer. The 27-year-old company, McGovernPR, has won international awards for its skill in marketing products and ideas. Other Carberry companies are CultureLink, headed by her husband, John Carberry, and Digital Future Link, headed by Sarah.  Mary, John and their adult son live in Muldowney Court, Malahide, Dublin, Ireland.

DEVOTEE OF SEER JOE COLEMAN

Mary Carberry was a follower of the Irish psychic Joe Coleman who began receiving visions in 2009.  IrishCentral.com reported, “Before his most recent trips and visitations at Knock, Coleman worked as a healer.  He ran spiritual development courses and gave clairvoyant readings before the revenue commissioners started looking into his finances. Though he was charging €40 a session for clairvoyant readings he insisted that he never charged for any kind of information to do with his visions of the Virgin Mary.” Carberry was instrumental in promoting Coleman in broadcast and print media, may have written his book, The Message, and maintained his Web site.

It is believed she wrote a letter on Nov. 1, 2010, to Ronald Conte at CatholicPlanet.com defending Coleman and claiming, “I am the second visionary. We both see our Lady as well as her beloved son Jesus Christ.” She made a prediction later repeated by MDM: The Tribulation has already started. The second half starts at the end of 20-12/beginning of 2013.”  The correspondence is signed only “Mary” and adds, “I can’t give you my surname unfortunately.” Seven days later Maria Divine Mercy [MDM] emerged from anonymity to…more anonymity to receive her first official communication from  God and by Feb. 2011 a slickly designed Web site called thewarningsecondcoming.com went “live.”  As with Mary’s letter to Conte, the new visionary repeats the command from the Virgin Mary that the messages from heaven be published.  Since MDM emerged, Coleman says he has not seen Mary Carberry, though his current website publishes her name in a notice for a 2012 prayer meeting.

CONNECTING THE DOTS

There are more connections between the names McGovern – the business woman – and Carberry – the ‘visionary.’ The Irish “Independent” newspaper published this story on July 24, 2010: “An e-commerce initiative launched yesterday and aimed at the 44 million Irish-Americans has pulled off a coup by getting the backing of US internet giant AOL. Ireland-usa.com has been set up by a company called CultureLink which is owned by public relations adviser Mary McGovern and her husband John Carberry.

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Block 4 Harcourt Center, Dublin. Home to Trumpet Publishing, Coma Books, and the The Warning Second Coming/MDM enterprises.

The formation of CultureLink may have saved the Carberrys from bankruptcy.  A few months earlier, Dec. 8, 2009, the Irish Independent reported of a couple about to lose their home for falling behind on payments of their $670,000 USD mortgage. The Building Society was seeking to re-possess the $1.4 million USD home.  “[Barrister Ann Lawlor] said John and Mary Carberry, of Muldowney Court, Malahide, Co Dublin, had not kept up monthly repayments of $6,991 USD for the past 10 months and were in arrears of more than $67,000 UDS.” The court denied the repossession.

BUSINESS LINKS

Breffni Cully

“Joseph Gabriel” at Oct. 6 Chicago MDM workshop

MDM’s visions are published, as commanded, in three volumes called the Book of Truth by Coma Books whose only products are the MDM line of merchandise.  Add a fourth volume for prayers. Visa and MasterCard accepted. To assure the company’s lock on income from published distribution of the messages, Coma Books copyrights the content. Jesus speaks; MDM profits.

There is additional legal language protecting publication of the messages: In no event is anyone permitted to publish, distribute or otherwise reproduce in any format any of the content or copies of the content that appears on The Warning Second Coming web site. Coma Books shares the same address as Trumpet Publishing Ltd, formed by Sarah Carberry [majority interest] and Breffni Cully, 60. A blogger has identified Cully as the same Joseph Gabriel who conducted and spoke at MDM workshops in Canada and the US during late summer/fall 2013, while associates made cash-only book sales.

The camera-shy Cully – recording devices and photos were forbidden from workshops – would have reason to change his identity to conceal his business relationship with Carberry that would link her to the visionary, Maria Divine Mercy.  So, we can connect Mary Carberry to Sarah Carberry to Trumpet Publications to Breffni Cully to Joseph Gabriel to the visionary MDM.

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Breffni  Cully with same tie, at a wedding event

As of January 2013 Sarah no longer owns Trumpet Publishing. In her place is Heinrich Martin Roth, 69, of Koln, Germany. Roth maintains German-language online book sales for…the visionary messages of MDM as contained in the Coma Books-published Book of Truth!  So, we connect Mary Carberry to Sarah Carberry to Trumpet Publications to Heinrich Roth to Coma Books to the visionary MDM.

Coma Books and Trumpet Publishing Ltd are located at Block 4, HarcourtCenter, Harcourt Street, Dublin, the identical contact address for TheWarningSecondComing.com, the Maria Divine Mercy Website.

THE UNCONSCIOUS STATE OF COMA

Who really IS Coma Books, the publisher of MDM’s 3-volume Book of Truth [mail order only; sold separately]? Companies Registration Office of Ireland reports that the name “Coma Books” was officially registered in February 2013 under number 486479 – the same number assigned to Curra Building and Civil Contractors.  “Coma Books” was being used in printed copies of the book containing the visionary’s messages almost a year before it was legally registered. In early November 2013, with Sarah Carberry’s name no longer visibly connected as owner of Trumpet Publishing, SoloCheck.ie reports that Trumpet Publishing now owns the name Coma Books. And who owns Trumpet?  Heinrich Martin Roth and Breffni Cully who, as “Joseph Gabriel,” gave testimonial workshops in Canada, the United States, and Australia, claiming the “truth” of the messages of the invisible woman known as Maria Divine Mercy.

Cully may own the entire visionary enterprise. On his “vCard” – an electronically-traded business card – he identifies his personal company name as The Warning Second Coming, the name used for MDM’s website. ‘Coma Books’ contracts with Magenta Ecommerce to process payment and shipping from online book sales, as Coma is a ‘virtual’ company with no office or staff. Books are shipped to 51 countries in six languages, most prominently in English and German.  Books are printed ‘on demand,’ which means they are printed after payment is received.

WATCH OVER THE RHINE

For four months, researchers gathered hundreds of pieces of information “crumbs” as an image formed revealing the mystery of “Maria Divine Mercy.”  Among the crumbs were ten names on psychic Joe Coleman’s list of contacts for a summer 2012 prayer meeting that included Mary Carberry and someone identified as “Herzmariens.” With no apparent value, the name was archived. Thanks to the work of a German researcher, we now know the significance of the one-word-named individual who likely held hands with Carberry canting prayers while Coleman communicated to the “other side.” He provides a link not only to Mary Carberry but also Maria Divine Mercy.

Herzmariens is a German prayer Website formed in 2003 that promotes “visionaries.”  It means “heart of Mary.”  It is also the pen name of the Website creator – the sales agent and translator of the German edition of Maria Divine Mercy’s three-volume book of ‘visions’… …Martin Roth of Cologne, Germany! Is it merely coincidence that Herzmariens, a Coleman-following prayer buddy of Mary Carberry, turns out to be a profit-maker on the visions of Maria Divine Mercy? And could profit-maker Martin “Herzmariens” Roth have identified himself as “Heinrich” Martin Roth, also of Cologne, Germany, who, with Breffni Cully, shares directorship of Trumpet Publishing founded by Cully and Mary Carberry’s daughter Sarah?  Let’s reverse the proposition: what is the probability that that assertion is NOT true? [See Updates tab for confirmation.]

THE LAND O’SEERS 

Joe Coleman is among several current Irish seers who have proven to be  frauds or remain “suspect.”  Denis O’Leary, who began seeing visions in 1988, continues to report on his relationship with the other side. He organizes “Circle of Prayer” groups throughout Ireland, similar to MDM’s “crusade of prayer” groups organized throughout the world. More well known are the visions of Christina Gallagher. In November 2009 London Daily Mail writer Philip Nolan wrote that many claim her to be “the greatest religious con trick ever perpetuated in Ireland.”

Within 20 years of her first vision, the mother-of-two described as an “unremarkable housewife” went from ordinary to “fabulously wealthy” and the owner of four mansions. The Irish Sunday World reports that since 2008 Gallagher, with no visible income, resides in a $5.4 million [USD] mansion in upper-class coastal Malahide, north of Dublin, population 16,000. In the same neighborhood as Mary Carberry. Just as Gallagher’s “professional” career was ending, Maria Divine Mercy’s began.

AWARD-WINNING MARKETING

Mary McGovern’s – Mary Carberry’s – marketing skills were noted in an article published in the Irish Business and Leadership journal in December 2009 that announced a new online service provided by her company.  Mary McGovern remarks how skillful online content can deliver “stickiness by engaging readers on issues they care about…we produce content that stimulates online and offline debate. The key objective is to attract repeat visitors to a company’s website.”

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Happy Jesus at MDM Facebook page warns of global devastation

A year later a woman concealing her identity under the name Maria Divine Mercy demonstrates an uncanny online ability to engage readers on issues they care about. With lots of “stickiness” to keep them coming back for more.  And claims she’s receiving near-daily messages from a talking drawing of Jesus who tells her she is the last prophet. And 100,000 people say, “Amen.” This is an exceptionally remarkable textbook-study in effective marketing and public relations.

SEAL OF APPROVAL 

More than a year into the visions, Maria Divine Mercy received a protective “seal of the living God” prayer – Number 33 – from her “Jesus” that an enterprising San Diego, California, graphic artist designed into a parchment-colored piece of paper with the prayer, related text, and graphic elements, including a prominent image of a red seal. The seal, according to Maria’s “Jesus,” is His “promise of Salvation” [a clear break from Catholic doctrine].  The paper “seal” has supernatural power to protect all who accept it up to the second coming of Christ.

The seal paper, translated into 16 languages, is downloadable at TheWarningSecondComing.com to be printed and prominently displayed in homes. All seals, past, present, and future have been pre-blessed at MDM’s request by “Padre Dominic La Fleur” – King of Mercy, Canada. La Fleur writes at internetgebetskreis.com, “If they [ordained ministers] refuse [to bless the seals], I gotcha covered! Zap!” Mary had a message from her alleged Jesus to convey to the ‘seal’ artist: Jesus approves the seal and appreciates the artist’s good work. The prayer excludes mention of “Jesus” or “Lord” or “Christ.” Curiously, the  ‘seal’ artist himself dismisses any special powers assigned to the document he created, or the red-colored stamp itself, which may be purchased from the artist’s catalog of copyrighted graphics that include a symbol of Freemasonry.

[Coincidentally, there are 33 degrees to Freemasonry and this is prayer 33.] On a public-viewable social media page he said in childlike fashion, “I am a commercial artist and I have thousands of stock images. The red seal is one of my stock images which existed years before any of this stuff hit the fan. The red seal is a decoration and has no more power than your FB avatar (duh).” “Hit…the…fan…no…power…duh.” Earlier this month he was asked if he made money on the seal: “I’m a commercial artist. That’s what I do.” Continuing his online discourse: “If you want me to defend MDM, you’ll have to pay me.” The artist’s comments have been deleted from live view. Researchers, however, have preserved images of the conversation which will be viewable as embedded links are added to this article. [See Updates tab for the designer’s current project.]

IDENTITY CONFIRMED?

In June 2013, three years after Mary Carberry separated herself from the medium Joe Coleman, Coleman received this email: [stet] “I have read a lot about Maria Divine Mercy recently. She hides behind her false title and word is out it’s Mary Carberry. She is being heavily associated with you..can you confirm any truth in this?” Coleman responded, [stet]Yes this is true, it is all over the internet, I have not seen or heard of her [Mary] in three years now, but I pray for her that she will turn back to God, the devil works in many ways to deceive people and keep them from the truth, any way I am good so far have to try stay in the state of grace, thank you for your concern I send you Mothers love and Blessings, joe Coleman  peace by yours amen.”

A contributor to the Facebook page SafeHarbour, for recovering MDM followers, reports that Mary McGovern’s [Carberry] online LinkedIn photo was shown to Joe Coleman who confirmed that the photo was a younger Mary Carberry. [LinkedIn is a social network site for business professionals.  Mary lists among her special interests, “…reading, especially knife-edge thrillers.”] A breakthrough revelation of MDM’s identity “went viral” since its posting Nov. 1. A detailed letter, written by someone with Carberry family contacts, identified Mary Carberry as Maria Divine Mercy. The extent of personal information in the message makes a credible case for its authenticity. Researchers contributing to this story know her personally. The author writes that Mary never had visions until she met Joe Coleman. [stet:] “Joe Coleman’s infestation definitely spilled onto Mary Carberry and soon she too began to have visions. In fact a number of people associated with this medium Joe Coleman began to have visions including Keith who was killed in a car accident. If people are not in the State of Grace and start associating with mediums, false  prophets, well then it is no surprise that they too become infested with the demonic which often leads to visions, prophecies etc but they are not from God, they are totally FALSE.”

Is Mary McGovern Carberry – the international marketing/public relations award-winner – the real MDM? Or the Personna concealing one or more other “visionaries”?

PRIEST” ADDS SUPPORT  

MDM’s visions earned credibility early-on from Facebook postings contributed by “Fr. Marie-Paul,” who identified himself as a Catholic priest. He was literate, persuasive, and provided convincing theological support.  But Fr. Marie-Paul would slip references to other messages not so believable, tying MDM with prior visionaries including condemned deceased seer Veronica Leuken, from Bayside, New York, and the Australian cultist William Kamm, who does business as “the Little Pebble.” Kamm  is serving prison time for crimes against two underage girls and is not scheduled for release until 2015.  Kamm himself aggressively promotes MDM’s messages on his Website, of which there is little else left, and on YouTube videos through an intermediary. He claims he will be the last Pope. Kamm-the-Pebble, 63, has a newer name, William Costellia, which may help establish a post-prison identity that separates him from the subject of the book A Wolf Among the Sheep: Australian Cult Leader William Kamm.

Still an active visionary communicating from his prison cell, his messages remarkably paralleled the messages from Maria Divine Mercy. Grow your own food, money will be worthless, buy gold and silver, the end is near. And as to ‘Fr. Marie-Paul,’ he wasn’t really a priest after all, but rather a member of the William “the Pebble” Kamm cult. When Facebook followers increasingly questioned his priestly status, the administrator of the official MDM Facebook page, Jesus to Mankind, sought advice directly from Maria Divine Mercy who spoke directly to Jesus who said, directly, the fake priest’s contribution was “important.” Maria emails, “[Fr. Marie-Paul] added great credibility to the messages. I was sad to see him go and I miss his posts.” Yes, we have a copy of the email.

The fake priest, Marie-Paul, continues to promote MDM messages under different names and different Web sites including BiblicalFalseProphet, where he claims that Pope Francis is an ally of the end-times anti-Christ.  And that the anti-Christ is a stuttering American of East Indian ancestry who authors business books that address world hunger. And he’s sure of this. And Maria’s Jesus calls his contributions “important.”

William “The Pebble” Kamm, prison release date 2015

UNWEAVING THE WEB

The story of the future Pope and convicted rapist William Kamm, whose heavenly messages pre-visioned those of MDM, now takes an interesting and curious person-to-person journey to the House of Carberry.  But to get there, we must go back to the confident and handsome 60-year-old who spoke at the Maria Divine Mercy workshops under the assumed name of Joseph Gabriel. Breffni Cully, a retired dentist, business man, and cyclist enthusiast [“the flying dentist”], spoke excitedly of the visions of the Irish seer, bringing with him the Jesus-picture that talks to the visionary. He is engaged in a number of business ventures, including Pharmanex, a division of the multi-level marketing company Nu Skin, and Trumpet Publishing Limited, with whom he shared ownership with Mary Carberry’s daughter, Sarah.

In 2007, he got into a little legal trouble.  The Inishowen News of Donegal, Ireland, reported that Cully was involved in a “medical card scheme” that earned him $144,504 [USD]. With all his relationships, personal and business, he lists only two “friends” on his Google+ page. His estate manager and Christine Lammerman. Christine Lammermann is the former mother-in-law of the Little Pebble, William Kamm!  What are the odds that Kamm-the-cultist would have a relative who is both a personal friend of a Carberry business partner and a public-speaking advocate of the ‘visionary’ Maria Divine Mercy?

THE LAMMERMANN LINK  

In 1991 Lammermann and daughter Bettina immigrated to Australia from Munich, Germany, to join the Little Pebble’s [Kamm’s] commune.  At its peak, the order Kamm founded in 1983 had an estimated 100,000 followers.  Bettina, at 17, became Kamm’s “secret mystical wife” and “Queen of the Cult.” She gave birth to six of Kamm’s 16 children  – from 8 “wives” – before “divorcing” him in 2006, a year into his prison term. Bettina, now 40, has moved far from the maddening crowd.  Her mother remained in the commune for another seven years and, until recently, used its address on Koloona Drive, Cambewarra, New South Wales, for her internet marketing business.

Lammerman, an online marketing entrepreneur of natural health and other products, is also an organizer of the Catholic “Our Lady of Refuge” organization inspired by German Bishop Ralph Napierski who unsuccessfully attempted to participate in the conclave to elect the current Pope.  Napierski isn’t a real bishop, but he dresses as one. In mid-November 2011 Maria Divine Mercy’s visions began to appear on Lammermann’s Website with the same frequency as they appear at the official MDM Website. But there is no attribution to MDM or reference or link to her site. At one point, Lammermann found it necessary to specifically deny claims she wrote the messages.

In email Lammermann seems to admit to the authorship of one MDM prayer, now numbering 125.  In reference to prayer number 31 she comments, “I hope you like what I wrote.” We know from audio interviews she’s given, by her admission and accent, that the “Last Prophet” Maria Divine Mercy is an Irish business woman with children. But might she be getting a little help from her friends? Better yet, is this a brokered marketing scheme between an Australian cultist, an Irish businessman, and a marketing/pr firm, all seeking to advance their own agendas? A web of deceit is unraveling.

HE SAID, SHE SAID

We’ve noted that the value of particular pieces of information found on the trail leading to the identity of Maria Divine Mercy is not always apparent.  As pieces gather to form patterns the importance of a clue found months ago may rise or diminish. Herzmariens, for example, a prayer partner of Mary Carberry, had no value until the name was attached to Martin Roth, a translator and seller of MDM books, and Roth’s name rose in value when Heinrich Martin Roth was identified as a business partner of Breffni Cully in the publishing of MDM books. And so it was with Christine Lammermann who was “friended” by the Irish retired dentist Breffni Cully on his Google+ page.  Research on her leads us to explore the doomsday cult leader William Kamm to whom Lammermann surrendered  her 17-year-old daughter in “mystical” marriage, and Kamm reminds us of “Marie-Paul,” who provided theological defense for the early messages of Marie Divine Mercy before he was suspected as a fake-priest in Kamm’s cult.

William Kamm’s value rises further from the discovery of correspondence he issued from his prison cell on Nov. 1 containing a new “message from Jesus.”  It was sent through email by his fake “bishop” Malcolm Broussard to a private group. This new message from Kamm’s “Jesus” is remarkably identical in substance, phrasing  and in particular use of terms and words to messages from MDM  – “Billions will be saved!”  In Kamm’s message “Jesus” refers twice to Maria Divine Mercy. “Remember what I told you through my prophet Maria Divine Mercy…Pray for Maria Divine Mercy, my Last Prophet.” [An earlier message is online]

If Kamm is genuine and MDM is genuine, God might be their common source. But we know Kamm is an unrepentant pedophile and excommunicated Catholic. In 1981 at age 32, before he transformed into “the Pebble,” he frequented the Bayside, New York, alleged “apparition” site, kissing the girls and baring his chest.  Canadian journalist Anne Cillis was there. She writes in “Bayside Backstage” [Archangel Press, 1986] that she told Kamm, “Morally speaking, you are a disaster…either you leave or we will kick you out.” Cillis continues, “He then walked over to the door and put his hand on his hip in this sexy pose and said: ‘Well, I guess it’s time Australia got its own seer.’ ” The incident is related here.

Kamm returned to Australia, began his sect as the Order of St. Charbel, and in June 2003 earned the condemnation of Bishop Peter William Ingham of Australia who issued a formal decree stating that Catholics who follow the ministry of the “so-called Order of St. Charbel, founded by William Kamm…place themselves outside the Catholic Church and are by that fact excommunicated.” Does Bishop Ingham’s excommunication implicitly apply to the repackaged Kamm in the form of Maria Divine Mercy? Why is Kamm so obvious in his support of MDM, even claiming that he, in return, is endorsed by her?  Is Kamm communicating to MDM from prison through an intermediary? Researchers have credible information that supports that contention. [See Update tab for new revelations.]

CHURCH REACTION

MDM’s messages from heaven have been publicly condemned by Catholic bishops in several countries where the cult has evidenced itself. But the Irish bishops, who have jurisdiction over Mary, have not spoken publicly.  And the silence is puzzling.  But the Nov. 1 writer, cited above, says Dublin Archbishop Diarmuid Martin knows of the woman and assigned an Irish exorcist priest to meet her and examine her messages. She writes, “He told her that her messages were not from God, that they were utterly FALSE.”

IS IT OVER YET?

Will MDMers ever be convinced the scam is up?  Or will these messages extend far into the future?  The seers of Necedah, Wisconsin and later Bayside, New York, each reported visions for 20 years. Both condemned. There are hundreds of others. Some good; some not so good.   Followers speak of the promotion of Catholic devotions, the emphasis on prayer, fasting, penance, recitation of the Rosary and the Divine Mercy Chaplet. There are more than 125 MDM prayers that form a Crusade of Prayer that circles the world. And it’s only three years old! This sure sounds like Jesus’ work. Or another diabolical trick to deceive faithful and sincere truth-seekers. There is honey in the trap.

The financial stress the Carberrys endured evidenced by the threat of the loss of their home, and the social and business embarrassment, may have created an emotional foundation that pushed Mary to seek spiritual comfort. Perhaps Mary’s association with Joe Coleman suggested her own transcendental project.  She had the in-family talent and international contacts to market to a world starved for spiritual clarity. I don’t believe Mary or Joe or other “seers” set out initially to deceive. The sincerity in the eyes of Joe Coleman kneeling in prayer wins hearts. The prayers and messages from those behind the curtain of Maria Divine Mercy capture minds and souls.  But we know the devil will embrace his enemy and betray his friends in the grand exercise of wickedness and entrapment. We are told that in the end even the elect will be deceived.

The time is ripe with befuddlement and desperate for leadership. For a time, I believed these messages were authentic. But there were problems I kept dismissing. Contradictions. Harsh language. Even problems with sentence structure and punctuation! [Is no one checking these for grammar?] Forget theological arguments: We live in an age dispossessed of doctrinal allegiance – at the highest levels!  It is the person of Mary Carberry that speaks to the deceit. Mary and John have a beautiful, intelligent and talented family. Pray they are sheltered from harm as a consequence of these revelations.  And that she comes clean soon. It’s time to lift the curtain.

Saseen

Research is ongoing with near-daily new discoveries. Embedded links will be added soon, connecting statements with supporting documentation, including preserved screen shots of Websites that are now disappearing from live access or being altered since the first appearance of this article on Nov. 11.   The author lives in the United States and has no personal or business relationship with the Carberrys or any of the individuals named.  In his quest to determine the genuineness of the messages, which more and more promoted a schismatic split from the Catholic Church, he discovered a cadre of courageous inquirers – all faithful Catholics – in many countries engaged in ongoing research into the mystery of the veiled woman. This article is a result of their research.  If you have new information, please add it to the comment box [requests for confidence will be respected] or post it at one of the Facebook pages devoted to assisting former MDMers.  All comments are read. The date at top will change to indicate the addition of new information.  This article should be understood as a compassionate gesture to those perpetuating these messages and to those victimized by them.  

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  1. Charles

    This is the kind of nonsense that destroyed my marriage except that (12 years ago) it was the Kingdom of the Divine Will fad. If you are living your life according to the teachings of the Church, who cares how and when the end will occur? We’re all going to die eventually.

    You can’t reason with apparition chasers because they believe they are part of an “elite” group of Catholics. They know someone who is in direct contact with God (or Mary). They know something about “the end” that the rest of us don’t. They’re a cut above the rest and will argue even though some of their arguments contradict Church teaching. They CANNOT be wrong and will not consider alternate explanations (like the one posted here) under ANY circumstances. Anyone disagreeing with them has been deceived by Satan.

    They’re closer to God than those who don’t believe. It’s called pride.

    When the “deadline” for “The Warning” occurs (May 2016 is what I’ve read) and nothing happens, all the doomsday preppers will just switch to the next end-times fad to come along… as was the case with KDW, Our Lady of All Nations, Little Pebble, and every other end-times prophecy that has come along since the birth of Christ.

    • The Flash

      Messages from Fatima teach us the Church will be infiltrated with satan, the messages say bishops and priests will lose their faith..and one of your popes had stated that the smoke of satan had entered the church some time in the decade of the 60’s, I think?.

      Today along with the rest of the denominations and christian organizations falsehood rules. Satan will not stop till he gets to the top. Many messages were told by many that pope John Paul II had many troubles from the closest to him within the walls of the Vatican.

      Now, many many children have been victims to sexual abuse within the church of all denominations not just the Catholic Church.

      There is absolutely no justice coming from the mouths of those who have authority…none!

      As far as I’m concerned the pope is the leader of all churches and different religions. He does not speak out justice towards the priests or whoever does these horrible deeds to children, instead we should forgive and forget and receive from gay clergy communion.

      I will not bring my children to recieve communion or anything from a gay priest in the House of The Lord..I will not allow my children to listen to gay clergy.

      The children are not protected in the churchs anymore or in society.

      Instead the pope has gotten great praise from the gay community and atheists and christians who side with gay lifestyles and the molested children and the many many victims are never mentioned. And what they live through, and have to live through for the rest of their lives are not heard about…

      Personally I’m keeping a close eye on what this prophet is saying because from my own point of view I don’t see any protection for the children anywhere.

      The gay community has exploded. I’m living in cottage country and I’m surrounded by gay people plus married couples who are bi swingers but appear to be just normal family type..the children are not being protected and if I was God the Father I would be really ticked off about that.

      Because no one raises their voice to get rid of these people in the church.

      You people want to listen to gay clergy and take communion from their hands…go a head

      But it’s not for me..and I feel perfectly good inside knowing that my children and family will be spared from receiving holy communion from a queer or queers inside the House of The Lord.

  2. Ken

    Again I say: As shown here, a lot of Christians are very unchristian towards each other.
    Here’s a little puzzle: Who has more chance of getting to Heaven?: The very Christian-in-attitude atheist, who carries out good deeds – as Christ wants – or the (majority) lukewarm, indifferent believer?
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    In December, 1998, an alleged seer from South America who suffered the stigmata, said in Sydney, that Jesus said to her, that only about 500-600 people in the World (6 billion at the time), truly love Him.
    As I felt then about that comment, I feel and see more so now.
    I could see 500-600 being true.
    Unchristian Christians are good evidence of it.

    Ken,
    Australia.

  3. I have written a message about the dangers of spitting upon false prophet using Jesus’s words, but obviously it was not published. Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Hiding a thread or keep on spitting on a visionary (because we are SO SURE he/she is not of GOD) IS NOT TRUTH. Maria spoke about what’s happening now in the sky. whatever you believe lies don’t take you anywhere

  4. Da Man

    Very useful article about the background of MDM & friends.

    Regarding the author trying to preserve “screen shots of Websites that are now disappearing from live access or being altered”, there are actually archive copies of the most every page on the Internet that you can access directly with the right URL! You can provide these “wayback machine” URL links in your later updates to this website to reference a particular webpage as of a particular date instead of providing saved copies (which are less believable since they could have been edited by you). You can use an URL of the form http://www.webarchive.org/web/YYYYMMDD/ to access an archive of particular URL as of the given date. Snapshots are not taken every day and typically only for things that have changed, but you will go to the closest appropriate archive that can be found for a given URL. For example, using “web.archive.org/web/20130317/www.thewarningsecondcoming.com” will get you to an archive copy of entire website as of 2013-03-17 (2013 St. Patrick’s Day). This wayback machine view will have functional links to other archived webpages as of the date being shown. You can also use other shorter versions for the date (e.g., just the year) or even archive instance numbers (1 for the 1st copy, 2 for the 2nd copy, etc). So, using web.archive.org/web/2000/www.thewarningsecondcoming.com will get you to the closest backup copy as of the year 2000 (BTW this was on March 7, 2011 from looking at the resulting URL which will include the entire date in UTC format). There will be arrows on the top of the displayed waybackmachine box that will allow you to navigate to earlier and later archived versions of the particular webpage being displayed. As you’d expect, you can look up any individual webpage as of a particular date. For example, going to “web.archive.org/web/1/www.thewarningsecondcoming.com/message-to-agnostics-atheists” will take you to the 1st archive copy of the webpage with this name. So if you have any URL from the past, you should be able to find an archived copy of it if it was on the web long enough to get captured by the wayback machine. Good stuff if you got nothing to hide (or if you need to find what someone else might be trying to hide from the past)! Sorry for all the geeky stuff to everyone, but I thought that the author and others looking to find the truth would find it quite useful. Happy webpage hunting!

  5. Yofomi

    It is not yet proven 100% that Mary Carberry/Macgovern is MDM, until then she should have the benefit of doubt as the messages look GOOD and not evil; meanwhile in her last post Jesus gives many answers to those skeptics “You will be hated, not just by the wicked, but also by holy people, who genuinely love Me, but who lack discernment, when you take up My Cross”
    Your Jesus

    • Yofomi

      I think MDM is a bed-ridden person from sickness and that MaryCarberrys -spoken & exposed about in this article– is only managing and marketing her messages that she almost gives/writes daily from her bed; MDM chooses to remain unknown so that undue attention will not be paid to her but to the messages and the givers of those messages. And that is the best for her, since if she reveals her real ID she might be eaten to her bones while alive with life.

      • Yofomi

        Saying that he (pope Francis) can not judge sinners, since in the New Testament is said to not judge others, is not doing the will of God but is a form of escapism (to escape in order to avoid controversy). HOWEVER, GOD MAKES HIS PROPHETS AND TEACHERS JUDGE OTHERS WHO INDULGE IN SINS PROVIDED THEY HAVE LOVE AND THEIR MOTIVE BEHIND JUDGING IS LOVE FOR THE SINNERS. If this pope LOVES the sinners, and hate their sins, he would “judge” them in order to save them from their sins. If he abstains from correcting them then his love is not real but a fake one worthy of a false prophet.

  6. Ken

    Stop attacking each other. So much for being Christian. The only winner here is Satan. The signs are everywhere of the End. Abortion, euthanasia, unmarried mothers galore, sex education for toddlers, paedophilia, homo ‘marriage’ etc. ( If anyone challenges you, say to them that marriage means the joining of two opposites, eg in plumbing. And God and His Son both said, “A man must leave mother and father and cling to his wife.” Pretty clear.)
    If MDM is deluded, she is spot on with what the World has sunk to, and is in accordance with the Book of Revelations.
    I recommend to you the site, henry makow, an impartial Canadian Jew, who reveals daily how God is gradually being removed via Illuminati/Masonic politics and the communications media.
    Now, kiss and make up, you so-called Christians. You may be eternal neighbours in your mansions in Heaven.
    Won’t that be fun?

    Ken,
    Sydney,
    Australia.

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  8. Ken

    It’s good that those unchristian egos have fallen silent. Too bad all the Catholic churches worldwide aren’t as hushed in reverent respect for the Real Presence. (Luke 22.19 read in conjunction with John 6:54 is the proof that He is there.)
    A seer here in Sydney, Valentina Papagna, with whom our Cardinal Pell keeps in contact, was given a message in the 1990s by St Catherine of Sienna. She said:
    “If they are not prayed for after their death, those who talk inside the church, can be in Purgatory for centuries.”
    That’s right, fellow tremblers, C.E.N.T.U.R.I.E.S!
    So clamming up in His Presence, as once was the norm, (and also whilst others are attempting to pray,) is highly recommended.

    And Jesus is mad with having lay ministers handling the Host and also with Communion in the hand.

    Her site is: About Valentina Papagna. On 17.2. 04, she was foretold of the Boxing Day tsunami, and on 25.8.05 was foretold of Katrina. (See her archives.) Both disasters hit places of great sin.
    Another worthwhile site is End Times Daily, in which millionaire Ned Dougherty receives monthly messages.
    (See also, Ned Dougherty on the Sam Lesante Show.)
    Trouble is, he’s been told Pope Francis is a goodie, but, MDM is told otherwise.
    I give it to MDM with all the feather duster attitude to sin when the World
    needs a rod of iron.
    eg How can divorced and remarried couples receive Communion when Jesus said that they live in adultery?

    Hope to see you in Heaven, after we all Return to Sender.

    Ken,
    Sydney,
    Australia.

  9. @VTA
    you wrote “if someone disagrees with our almighty, correct opinions, (s)he is on the side of the devil”… And I agree with this excerpt certainly.

  10. PocketSketch

    “The works of mercy are charitable actions by which we come to the aid of our neighbor in his spiritual and bodily necessities. Instructing, advising, consoling, comforting are spiritual works of mercy, as are forgiving and bearing wrongs patiently.” Catechism 2447

    I agree we always need to speak the truth in love but to remain silent when so many good Catholics are falling into a brood of vipers would not love; rather, it would be indifference. The baptized are part of the Mystical Body of Christ; hence, when one part of the body is wounded and infected the whole body suffers. Division, calumny, gossip, suspicion, lies, heresy and schism are all deep wounds. Ignoring this wound will not benefit the patient. It needs immediate attention. Maybe the surgeon will need to make deep, cruel and painful cuts which the patient initially recoils from but in the end his work is a work of healing and love.

    As St. Paul affirms, “Where sin increased, grace abounded all the more.”(Roman5: 20) But to do its work grace must uncover sin so as to convert our hearts and bestow us with righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

  11. PocketSketch

    VTA, I wholeheartedly agree with you that no one may ever assume anyone is going to Hell which is a judgement reserved for God alone. There are many mitigating factors which we can never know or understand. God alone is the searcher of hearts.

    “Moreover, pastors and the lay faithful who accompany their brothers and sisters in faith or on a journey of openness to God must always remember what the Catechism of the Catholic Church teaches quite clearly: “Imputability and responsibility for an action can be diminished or even nullified by ignorance, inadvertence, duress, fear, habit, inordinate attachments, and other psychological or social factors.” Consequently, without detracting form the evangelical ideal, they need to accompany with mercy and patience the eventual stages of personal growth as these progressively occur. I want to remind priests that the confessional must not be a torture chamber but rather and encounter with the Lord’s mercy which spurs us on to do our best. A small step, in the midst of great human limitations, can be more pleasing to God than a life which appears outwardly in order but moves through the day without confronting great difficulties. Everyone needs to be touched by the comfort and attraction of God’s saving love, which is mysteriously at work in each person, above and beyond their faults and failings.” Pope Francis

  12. PocketSketch

    That being said, VTA, how does this sit with you?
    “I will cut out the hearts of those hardened and stubborn souls who care nothing for anyone’s needs, except their own.” “Jesus” speaking to mankind from the Warning second coming site, Aug. 29, 2013

    The only one cursing and threatening cruel punishments, annihilation, eternal damnation is the entity that speaks from W2C. The following is from the Living Word of the one and only Divine Mercy:

    “I will give you a new heart and place a new spirit within you, taking from your bodies your stony hearts and giving you natural hearts.” Ezekiel 36:26

    • Pocket sketch, it is obvious you are from a site called “Jesus to mankind”. they cut me of this Facebook site I guess the truth is to much for the author of this site. Can you tell me who runs this site on Facebook. You you have to have a sick mind to think that the Blessed Mother or Jesus would talk in such a manner. Any such sites without a Bishop or Church leader will fail. Godbless.

  13. PocketSketch

    VTA said Dec. 8, “if someone disagrees with our . . . opinions, (s)he is on the side of the devil. this is the sort of self-righteousness Our Lord constantly spoke against, STRONGLY.”

    Precisely, VTA. The faithful who are faithfully defending the honor of Holy Mother Church are constantly accused of “siding with the devil.” This is a recurring theme with the seer and her disciples. What this counterfeit Jesus teaches is out of sync with the teaching of the Catholic Church. Would Jesus contradict the Vicar of Christ who was speaking infallibly when he wrote the Encyclical on the Holy Spirit? Never. As there is only one God, one faith, one baptism and one truth the “entity” speaking through this seer is a deceiver.

    “But remember this. When the Truth is finally revealed to you, there will be no turning back if you are found . . . guilty of the one eternal sin. That is IF YOU BLASPHEME AGAINST THE HOLY SPIRIT.” {Jesus} August 8, 2012.

    “But if you block final plan of salvation by ridiculing openly and gathering believers of My Church to . . . consistently proclaim the Voice of the Holy Spirit to be false and evil, YOU WILL SUFFER ETERNAL . . .DAMNATION.” {Jesus} Aug. 8, 2012.

    “Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit . . . is the sin committed by the person who claims to have a “right” to persist in evil -in any sin at all – and who thus rejects Redemption. One closes oneself up in sin, thus making impossible one’s conversion, and consequently the remission of sins, which one considers not essential or not important for one’s life. This is a state of spiritual ruin, because blasphemy against the Holy Spirit does not allow one to escape from one’s self-imposed imprisonment and open oneself to the divine sources of the purification of consciences and of the remission of sins.” Bl. John Paul II, encyclical “On the Holy Spirit”, 1986

  14. amit goyal

    I have been reading so much about MDM . Frankly speaking I find most of the things said in the messages to be true and very CATHOLIC . The only problem is about the dates . All about the sacraments and other catholic teachings are perfectly fine ( even praying for the priests). The prayers given are very good . I am sure the devil will not ask you to pray to Jesus and go for confession ,say rosary ,divine mercy prayers etc and of course worship Jesus .This shows that it s not from satan these messages . Therefore why don’t we stop finding fault with it ? Lets start praying for our souls and that of others .so we all can go to heaven.

    Any takers!!!!

    • Lori

      Actually it does, read the book of Father Amorth when the Devil/Satan ask to pray and deceive, she is under him maybe, she is fake anyway!

  15. just watch and see if pope francis messes up Mass, especially the consecration. it’s as simple as that.

    • David

      Exactly!!! Once people start to see the changes in the church, which will soon be introduced by the new Pope, EVERYONE will be confused. However, those who read and follow MDM messages will enlightened by the truth. These messages are ‘not’ given to replace the Bible, however, they are there to “WARN” us, that we are indeed in the End Times and that God is wanting to save us NOW before it’s too late.

      Latest message – God the Father: Earthquakes will strike your cities

      You don’t believe this right?? Well, guess what.. An Earthquake has just recently hit Chilli. I’m saying this because it’s SAD, that MDM messages which have been foretold, are indeed coming true.. BIT BY BIT, STAGE BY STAGE. The Most Blessed Trinity and Our Blessed Mother of Salvation gives us these messages. Hence, we need to repent and turn away from our sins. I’m not saying I’m perfect, but I’m just stating the facts.

      You can say all you want, but whoever’s reading this, KNOW THIS “God will not give up on you, for he loves everyone, no matter who you are and what religion you come from!! The battle between Good and Evil is still going.. YET, GOD WILL ALWAYS TRIUMPH IN THE END.

      • PocketSketch

        David, Your enthusiasm for the “true end times prophet guided by the Heavens to help convert the world” is really touching. (See message Dec.16, 2011) I beg to differ with your statement that “these messages are ‘not’ given to replace the Bible.” To the contrary, not only are they meant to replace the Bible but they are meant to supersede it, revealing secrets and unrevealed details that have heretofore never been disclosed to the faithful. Who can forget with what breathtaking boldness Carberry said the Gospels failed to disclose the true Passion of Christ? “Atrocities of my Crucifixion not revealed to Man in the way they should.” (May 7, 2011) Or this declaration, “the Messages will have more impact . . . they will reveal the Truth of My Teachings in its raw format.”(07/05/11) In other words, Carberry suggests that the Word of God somehow fell short of what God really wanted to say. Two thousand years later, the eternal Word thinks He can revise it and do better this time. Are we to understand Our Lord was just waiting for the appearance – on the world stage – of a public relations consultant by the name of Mary McGovern?

        One can not possibly keep a straight face and insist Carberry doesn’t demand her writing be revered and venerated as Sacred Scripture. “None of you has the authority to publicly condemn My Word.” she wrote (August 26, 2013.) She has claimed to be the only voice of truth in the world today.

        “The only place you will find the Truth is in the Most Holy Bible and in My Holy Word given to you through these Messages.” (June 25, 2013)

        Not only does Carberry think her writings are directly inspired by the Holy Spirit she curses anyone who refuses to play along with her fantasy.

        “But remember this . . . if you are found . . . guilty of the one eternal sin. That is IF YOU BLASPHEME AGAINST THE HOLY SPIRIT. . . if you block {Mdm’s} final plan of salvation by ridiculing openly and gathering believers of My Church to . . . consistently proclaim the Voice of the Holy Spirit to be false and evil, YOU WILL SUFFER ETERNAL . . .DAMNATION.” (Aug. 8, 2012)

        Mary Carberry’s devoted disciples would do well to remember this warning.

        “For every one who does evil hates the light, and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. But he who does what is true comes to the light, that it may be clearly seen that his deeds have been wrought in God.” (John 3:20-21)

    • Fr. Duffy fighting 69th

      Exactly. All this heated arguing is moot. We just need to watch Francis closely and see what sorts of ‘reforms” he put into place. If he is the False Prophet, he will reveal himself.

      • PocketSketch

        Fr. Duffy. Pope Francis lives in the spotlight. It is your false prophet, Mary McGovern Carberry, who has taken great pain to hide in the dark. Even now, after her works of darkness have been proclaimed and denounced by Archbishop Martin, she continues to hide under her pretentious title. Any of her followers who scrutinize the Holy Father and wait for him to trip up, to start dancing the Tango on the altar of the holy oblation and together with the AntiChrist to hunt down Catholic priests, do so because their vision has been distorted, if not blinded, by MDM’s litany of deprecation penned by the hand of Satan. How many of Mary’s children rashly believed Pope Francis was the great impostor before he ever set foot on the world stage?

        God never takes over anyone of His children’s free will to “channel” His messages. God is so humble, so meek, and so respectful of the gift of free will that He waited on the reply of the Blessed Virgin Mary before His Word, His eternally begotten Son descended from heaven and became man. On the other hand, the spirit that guides Carberry never ceases to curse and threaten anyone who refuses to bend to her will and take her word as Gospel truth. Yes, she should hide for shame. She stands naked and exposed before the world. Her words have crumbled to dust; her pillars of deceit have been shaken. The Church alone remains the pillar and bulwark of truth. Even so, now is the time of mercy. Time for her and all her minions time to repent and return to the light.

      • Fr. Duffy fighting 69th

        Hey PocketSketch. I will ask you to not define my discernment, or my assessment of MDM. I merely stated that if Francis is the False Prophet he will make it known by his actions. Your diatribe in response to that proposition simply serves to illustrate your bigotry and fear in relation to the messages of MDM. If she is a false prophet, God will make that known. Meanwhile, my advice to you is to not put your spiritual future in the hands of ant mortal man, no matter what his ecclesiastical office. The Church has had a number of antipopes in the past, and there is no reason why we could not have one sitting in the Chair of St. Peter right now. Our Faith is in the Blessed Trinity, the Divinity of Jesus Christ, the True Presence, the Sacraments, the Blessed Mother, the Communion of Saints and the Promise of the Kingdom of Heaven. Not in a Italian cum Argentinian socialist leaning cleric with some pretty strange ideas about the social teachings and doctrines of the Catholic Church.

      • ..in order to have an antipope you need an anti-conclave or anti cadre of dissenters…in fact we do have a current antipope..the pope of the palmarian catholic church…check council of trent on the sacrament of order canon5…as well ex opere operato catechism 1128….your ditheistic subordinationist view of the non-efficacy of the death of Christ takes away his power to commission an uninterrupted succession of
        apostolic authority….ie..there MUST be a valid pope somewhere otherwise Vatican 1 pastor Aeternus loses its note of infallibility.. according to you..and the words of Christ where he hands the keys as well commissioning the apostoles to teach and preach as well lose the force of actuality..in God there is no potential ..the words are a true witness..Jesus is the amen of revelation…there can be no paradox or dialtheism..either you are in the room or not while standing in the doorway….

      • ..now this is the spirit of false charity warned about by many great spiritual directors..where one who is full of pride seeks to usurp the authority of the Church by clandestinely cloaking their inward feelings of superiority through filial correction which is outside their jurisdiction..to say we need to watch the pope…one is saying they are above the pope and that it is to them all must answer which is in no way wise or a path deigned by Christ…

        “SOME men the fiend will deceive on this manner. Full wonderfully he will enflame their brains to maintain God’s law, and to destroy sin in all other men. He will never tempt them with a thing that is openly evil; he maketh them like busy prelates watching over all the degrees of Christian men’s living, as an abbot over his monks. ALL men will they reprove of their defaults, right as they had cure of their souls: and yet they think that they do not else for God, unless they tell them their defaults that they see. And they say that they be stirred p. 249 thereto by the fire of charity, and of God’s love in their hearts: and truly they lie, for it is with the fire of hell, welling in their brains and in their imagination.”.. extract from the cloud of unknowing on thsoe deceived by the devil….now this is exactly the spirit at work within the MDM camp..people who claim they are protecting us from evil by watching over pope francis and his every move out of charity..which indeed the opposite is true..inspired by the devil the MDMers seek to usurp the authority of the Vatican…the devil is subtle but alas in the end handsome is as handsome does..the silver tongued devil….

  16. ….hallo ….mir flog heute ein zettel von ihnen nachhause…..und ich habe euren bericht gelesen…..was mir erleuchtet ist mit gott kann man nicht geschäfte machen nur durch dämonen und esoterik ,,mir scheint es dass ihr mit der esoterik viel spielt und ihr versteckt euch wenn was nicht eintrifft ….ich sehe auch und hab visionen aber ich nehme kein geld von leuten,,,und bereichere mich mit gott lässt es nicht grossen gewinn machen und mit der esoterik da sind dämonen mit in spiel die auch was voraus sehen können ich jedenfalls ,,,wenn ich was sehe ,mache ich mein volk aufmerksam darauf umzukehren…ohne geld…und wenn man den zehn gebote hält dann ist man geliebt von gott und beschützt.und es gibt keine zornige maria muttergottes,,,,niemals maria jungfrau und gottesmutter wünscht das die sünder kommen und umkehren.sie ist die mittlerin zwischen gott und dem menschen.wer da sagt jungfrau ist zornig der hat eine irre vision ..gott kann da alleine zornig sein.
    ….ich möchte eine frage beantwortet haben ….sie haben ja visionen….werden die machtigen machthaber bleiben oder in welcher gestalt kommt der teufel was wird noch pasieren….was kommt für europa….
    …….gott sagt aber das er die welt richtet das niemand mehr was mit seinen gold anfangen kann und es den ratten vor die füsse schmeisst wie kann man dann gold ansammeln…und wie kann gott sich wegen der warnung nur an wohlhabende beteiligen…gott ist der gott der liebe er liebt die armen genauso wie reiche,,,,,und den armen wird es im himmel besser gehn als reiche.de papst ist kein lügner benedikt ist von gott das ist gotteslästerung…….mir scheint euer tun nicht wahrheits gemäss meine meinung…..aber wir haben ja demokratie…..

  17. ifeyinwa okabe

    May God bless those who made this deciet to be known. As for those who were decieved or de-fruded, I have no pity for them, because they got what they sought. They neither understand nor believe in the Catholic doctrines as was handed down to us by JESUS, through saint Peter, the first Pope of the Church. They are miracle seekers who believe that they could be crossless crowns

    • Stephen

      You should have pity on all.

      • aquiness

        THE DEVIL IS NOT A MYTH SAYS POPE FRANCIS

        “The Devil is not a myth, is not a symbol for the ego mind, but a real being of destruction who hates you and I, and everyone, with a hatred we cannot begin to comprehend with our human mind. Pray for God’s protection always.”

        “Largely under the radar, theologians and Vatican insiders say, Francis has not only dwelled far more on Satan in sermons and speeches than his recent predecessors have, but also sought to rekindle the Devil’s image as a supernatural entity with the forces­ of evil at his beck and call……”

        ‘But Father, how old-fashioned you are to speak about the Devil in the 21st century,’” Francis, quoting those who have noted his frequent mentions of the Devil, said last month while presiding over Mass at the Vatican’s chapel in St. Martha’s House. He warned those gathered on that chilly morning to be vigilant and not be fooled by the hidden face of Satan in the modern world. “Look out because the Devil is present,” he said.

        Since its foundation, the church has taught the existence of the Devil. But in recent decades, progressive priests and bishops, particularly in the United States and Western Europe, have tended to couch Satan in more allegorical terms. Evil became less the wicked plan of the master of hell than the nasty byproduct of humanity’s free will. Even Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI, a lofty German theologian, often painted evil with a broad brush.

        By most accounts, the ranks of official exorcists number between 500 and 600 in a global church of more than 1 billion Catholics, with the vast majority operating in Latin America and Eastern Europe. This week, at the ninth and largest Vatican-sanctioned convention on exorcism attendees gushed about the fresh recognition being afforded the field.

        Almost 200 delegates — most of them priests and nuns — from more than two dozen nations talked about how Satanic cults are spreading like wildfire in the age of the Internet.

        The new pope, exorcists say, has become their champion in the face of modern skeptics, many of them within the Catholic faith. Officially, those claiming to be possessed must first undergo psychiatric evaluations. But exorcists say that liberal Catholic bishops have often rejected their services even after such due diligence.

        “The sad truth is that there are many bishops and priests in our church who do not really believe in the Devil,” said the Rev. Gabriele Amorth, the 89-year-old priest who is perhaps the closest thing the church has to a Hollywood-style exorcist. “I believe Pope Francis is speaking to them. Because when you don’t believe, the Devil wins.” (The Washington Post)
        THE DEVIL IS NOT A MYTH SAYS POPE FRANCIS

        “The Devil is not a myth, is not a symbol for the ego mind, but a real being of destruction who hates you and I, and everyone, with a hatred we cannot begin to comprehend with our human mind. Pray for God’s protection always.”

        “Largely under the radar, theologians and Vatican insiders say, Francis has not only dwelled far more on Satan in sermons and speeches than his recent predecessors have, but also sought to rekindle the Devil’s image as a supernatural entity with the forces­ of evil at his beck and call……”

        ‘But Father, how old-fashioned you are to speak about the Devil in the 21st century,’” Francis, quoting those who have noted his frequent mentions of the Devil, said last month while presiding over Mass at the Vatican’s chapel in St. Martha’s House. He warned those gathered on that chilly morning to be vigilant and not be fooled by the hidden face of Satan in the modern world. “Look out because the Devil is present,” he said.

        Since its foundation, the church has taught the existence of the Devil. But in recent decades, progressive priests and bishops, particularly in the United States and Western Europe, have tended to couch Satan in more allegorical terms. Evil became less the wicked plan of the master of hell than the nasty byproduct of humanity’s free will. Even Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI, a lofty German theologian, often painted evil with a broad brush.

        By most accounts, the ranks of official exorcists number between 500 and 600 in a global church of more than 1 billion Catholics, with the vast majority operating in Latin America and Eastern Europe. This week, at the ninth and largest Vatican-sanctioned convention on exorcism attendees gushed about the fresh recognition being afforded the field.

        Almost 200 delegates — most of them priests and nuns — from more than two dozen nations talked about how Satanic cults are spreading like wildfire in the age of the Internet.

        The new pope, exorcists say, has become their champion in the face of modern skeptics, many of them within the Catholic faith. Officially, those claiming to be possessed must first undergo psychiatric evaluations. But exorcists say that liberal Catholic bishops have often rejected their services even after such due diligence.

        “The sad truth is that there are many bishops and priests in our church who do not really believe in the Devil,” said the Rev. Gabriele Amorth, the 89-year-old priest who is perhaps the closest thing the church has to a Hollywood-style exorcist. “I believe Pope Francis is speaking to them. Because when you don’t believe, the Devil wins.” (The Washington Post)

  18. Doccus

    I’ve had suspicions about that website also, moistly due to the satanic language used. The threats of “cutting the heart out” or curses, or others of the type that ONLY Satan ever used, the contradictions, the threat of damnation if you read any other prophecies, or print any part of the messages elsewhere, the continuous thread of all the atrocites going on despite no visible evidence of them, and especially the references to Garabandal which has been officially condemned. I was surprised to find that outabout Garabandal but seeing as several of it’s prophecies are now impossible, it’s not surprising.
    The problem with the site is that 99% of the revelations are in fact true. But this is how Satan deceives. The Vatican *is* overrun by evil, as Pope Paul VI said “The smoke of satan has entered the Church”.
    And our current Pope *is* making borderline heretical statements.
    And no, these messages are NOT urging readers to defy the Magistereium, mut the remain obedient until the obvious schism develops. So here the arguments of those criticising the MDM website are actually drawing people *closer* to that site with false assertions.
    I expect that was not their intent, so it is clear that Satan has his hand in both the messages AND the opposition to it!
    I will continue to closely examine these messages in case I am tragically wrong.. and as long as I am not urged to break the commandments of God I am quite comfortable still.
    In Jesus’ name, God Bless you all!

    • Stephen

      Having read all the messages from Jesus, God the Father and the Blessed Mother on Maria’s website (most twice and many numerous times) I detected no Satanic language- strong language at times but nothing much different from what is read in Sacred Scripture. Other observations here suggest to me that you haven’t read the messages and are making stuff up.

      • Chrisills

        Hi Stephen, an alleged message on Sunday, March 4th, 2012 @ 03:30 pm
        states, “My dearly beloved daughter the time for the opening of the seals which will result in YOU opening the seventh seal is almost upon you.”

        We can clearly see from the Book of Revelation Chapter 5 verses 1 to 6 that it states that ‘no man’ was able to open the book with the seals or even look at it except the lamb. This statement in the message contradicts scripture.

        Logically, if it contradicts scripture, it is not from God. St. Paul tells us not to despise prophecy, but test all things in the spirit (1 Thess. 5:19-22).
        He also tells us if an angel of light appears to you and preaches a gospel different to the one you have received you must reject it (Galatians 1:6-9).

        Logical conclusion, these messages are not of a divine origin. Another point, no Catholic is bound by private revelation. Only public revelation is binding, that is the scriptures. It is also stated in these messages that they are equal to or must be considered scripture. That is a heresy. These messages also promote millenarianism, which has be denounced by the Catholic Church as a heresy. Read the Catechism for the definition.

      • Chrisills

        I think my comment may not have been submitted so I apologize if it gets posted twice.

        Hi Stephen,
        an alleged message given on Sunday, March 4th, 2012 @ 03:30 pm states: “My dearly beloved daughter the time for the opening of the seals which will result in YOU opening the seventh seal is almost upon you.”

        We can clearly see from Revelation chapter 5 verses 1 to 6 that it states that no man was able to open the book or the seals or even look at it except the lamb. The statement in the message contradicts scripture.

        Logically, anything that contradicts scripture cannot come from God. He cannot contradict himself. St. Paul tells us not to despise prophecy, but test all things in the spirit (1 Thess. 5:19-22). He also tells us if an angel of light appears to you and preaches a gospel different to the one you have received you must reject it (Galatians 1:6-9).

        The logical conclusion is these alleged messages are not of a divine origin. St. Thomas Aquinas said there are three possibilities with people who claim to have visions. They are either mad, the messages are from the devil, or they are from God.

        The messages also claim they are to be considered equal to or actual scripture. This is a heresy. The messages also promote millenarianism, which has been denounced as heresy by the Catholic Church, see the catechism for the definition. Another point is that no Catholic is bound by private revelation, only public revelation, the scriptures. Another problem with the messages is the promotion of a spirit of confusion, disobedience and dissent from the established church. That spirit cannot originate from the Almighty. Blessed be his holy name.

        Yes we know there are problems with the Church, but it is the Church that Christ instituted. Just look at its history and see the scandals of the past, yet the Church still remains. If that is not proof of the guidance of the Holy Spirit I don’t know what is. We must be loyal to the Magisterium of the Church, as scripture says, ‘the pillar and foundation of truth is the Church’ (1 Timothy 3:15) and Christ promised that the gates of hell would not prevail against it.

        There may come a time where a remnant church is all that is left, which some mystics have alluded to:- Saint Faustina and others have commented on a ‘warning’ or illumination of conscience and a final trial of the church, an apostasy from the faith which ties into the famous St. Don Bosco painting of the Church as a ship at sea. But we are also told in the last days there will be many false prophets and the ‘sensus fidelium’ in union with the Archbishop of Dublin can now safely conclude that MDM is a false prophet. Do you truly believe that Our Lord will cast me and others aside because we don’t hold to these alleged messages? Of course not. MDM should submit to Church authority in these matters and even undergo some sort of exorcism to dispel the spirits that are surrounding her.

      • Chrisills…..”We can clearly see from Revelation chapter 5 verses 1 to 6 that it states that no man was able to open the book or the seals or even look at it except the lamb. The statement in the message contradicts scripture.”

        You are absolutely right! So why aren’t the Followers of Mary Carberry questioning her errors? Too busy searching for dirt to pin on the Pope…So bad! 😦

      • Fr. Duffy fighting 69th

        Au contraire. You are the ones obsessed with MDM and the messages. Francis is the issue. And it is quite easy to find “dirt” on him. He has consistently stirred up controversy with his statements, appointments, gestures and policies. He is the one opening doors and raising hopes in factions seeking radical change in Catholic Doctrine. At the very least he is loose-lipped, at the worse…well, we will see. Time will tell.

      • Duffy.. we have to keep refuting the claims made against our Pope. There is no ‘dirt’ on him! There are however plenty of distorted videos, wild media headlines and words said by him taken out of context.

      • Fr. Duffy fighting 69th

        Refuting? More like scrambling to defend inappropriate comments by Francis. If Francis has some control over the things he said, and maintained the type of decorum and dignity of say, Benedict, then you wouldn’t be called to refute anything. Francis creates the problem himself. And I suspect it is by design, as a way to prepare the faithful for imminent radical changes to Roman Catholic doctrine and teachings.

      • Duffy you posted…”If Francis has some control over the things he said, and maintained the type of decorum and dignity of say, Benedict, then you wouldn’t be called to refute anything.”

        You mean like when H H Benedict said the use of condoms is acceptable “in certain cases?” Some still don’t understand what he was getting at, and can’t be bothered placing his words in context. It’s the same with Francis..if someone has an agenda they don’t want to know the truth. 😦

      • Fr. Duffy fighting 69th

        That was inappropriate for Benedict to say, for sure. However, Francis has been making a string of statements that are problematic at the least. And might indicate where he hopes to bring the Church in the future. As I have said before, let us see what happens in October, and beyond. If he is the False Prophet, he will certainly show himself to be so. If not, then that would be a very good thing for the Roman Catholic church, obviously. And Aquiness, before you say it is unfair that Francis is questioned or suspected of potentially heretical leanings. If he not said the things he has said, we wold not be having this conversation. The responsibility for all this controversy lays at Francis’ feet.

      • “And Aquiness, before you say it is unfair that Francis is questioned or suspected of potentially heretical leanings. If he not said the things he has said, we wold not be having this conversation. The responsibility for all this controversy lays at Francis’ feet.”

        I beg to differ Duffy….If MDM had never come along we wouldn’t be having this conversation, unless you had in you already a disobedient spirit. But you have done me one great big favour…because of people like you I’ve come to know this Pope more than I did Benedict and before him John Paul 11.. and I’m happy to say that the more I learn of him, the more I love him for his humility and love for all mankind, especially the downtrodden. Satan hates this Pope, this is the reason he enlisted Mary Carberry. Thankfully many, myself included, eventually saw through her and made a sharp exit…leaving behind the disobedient, the Sedes and the ones that don’t know their faith. You stay in that club Duffy, that’s your choice… and when that ‘warning’ comes you’ll know who side you have been on. I’ll continue praying for you to come to your senses before it’s too late..

      • Fr. Duffy fighting 69th

        Aquiness, I know you are a good catholic woman, so I appreciate the prayers. As far as MDM goes, I learned of her quite recently. Previous to that I have had a lot of exposure to Marian apparitions and messages and other catholic prophecies. They warn about schism and heresy. Does that mean Francis is the False Prophet? No. It just means I am on my guard against heresy. If Francis says inappropriate things, then it catches my attention. I am not a heretic, so I am not worried about the Warning other than that I am a fallen sinner in desperate need of God’s mercy. And I stand resolutely against, and will resist unto blood, any changes to the present doctrines and teachings of the Roman Catholic Church.

      • Hi Duffy…Have you read this one? Its an approved apparition.

        http://www.miraclehunter.com/marian_apparitions/approved_apparitions/itapiranga/index.html

        “God has given us a sign for our current times, with Emeritus Pope Benedict XVI and Pope Francis: the Emeritus Pope prays in silence, in humility and worship for the Pope who must speak to the world and take action. Thereby, we must come together and pray a lot for the Church. Satan today creates confusion in many countries and he also wants the confusion to invade the Vatican. He wants above all to destroy the Church and thus attack the center of the Church, by removing the Pope and the Vatican. But the Virgin Mary intervenes to protect the Church, and that is why She appears in different places in the entire world. “​

      • But anyway Duffy. Mary Carberry has been condemned by her Bishop….and about time too 🙂

      • ” Does that mean Francis is the False Prophet? No….”

        The problem is that many are spreading slander against the Pope. This, as you should know is a grave sin. St Paul tells us these, among other sinners, will not enter heaven….that’s how serious this is! Yet when we inform the followers of Mary Carberry regarding this slander we are told “just wait and see”. Exactly what you say too. Even though they repeat this often they still spread defamatory statements

        Are you sinning Duffy…YES! I am sorry to say you are…you are in here telling everyone on the internet that you don’t trust this Pope! .Your words are spreading all over the world. You really need to stop this and go to confession. God is in charge of His Church….and the Pope maybe different, more homely, but he is NOT going to change the teachings at all.

      • Fr. Duffy fighting 69th

        Aquiness. That message sounds good to me. However, it doesn’t specify where the attack originates, nor who directs it. As a point of order, the Bishop made a general condemnation of the MDM messages, and their distribution. But it did not forbid her, MDM, from publicizing her messages. As you know, she still posts them on her site. Also, many visionaries and locutionists have been initially condemned by Church authorities, St. Bernadette and the Fatima children to name a few. So, as I always say. Let us see what happens in October, and the following months.

      • “…Also, many visionaries and locutionists have been initially condemned by Church authorities St. Bernadette and the Fatima children to name a few.”

        And the difference between them and Mary Carberry? Yes they were obedient to the authorities. She hasn’t come out of hiding to try to explain the errors. No she just continues selling the books…and now medals. Her jesus told her she didn’t need the Church…Do you agree with that Duffy?

      • Chrisills

        Fr. Duffy, I am not obsessed with these messages. It’s people who cling to these messages that are obsessed with them. They are not binding on any catholic. As a layman, I and others have merely pointed out the faults in these alleged messages, and I’m surprised that a priest (I have to take you at your word that you are a priest) cannot see the simple errors lay people and members of the clergy have been pointing out.

        I guess the problem comes in the tone of peoples words, which can be taken the wrong way, but we are acting out of fraternal correction, which I might add is an act of charity. As to the statements of Pope Francis I have to say some of them do worry me. There is also a video of him on youtube presiding at a Mass in Argentina. After the Eucharist has been distributed it ends with two people dancing the Argentine Tango in front of the altar. To me that’s very inappropriate, but then David did dance before the Ark of the Covenant.

        The Pope is a man and not infallible. It resides in speaking from the chair on matters on faith and morals in union with the bishops of the Church. So do we then conclude that St. John Paul II is a heretic because he kissed a Koran once. In my opinion it was the wrong thing to do because of the perception of the act, but the Church didn’t come crumbling down because he did it, and neither did the Church vanish when the Great Western Schism happened around 1378 and we had three popes. So while the Church is made up of sinners, and I believe Pope Francis has described himself as such, the Church is protected by the guidance of the Holy Spirit, and while bad things might happen within it, the Church cannot fail. Otherwise Christ is a liar, and I don’t think any Christian believes that.

      • Fr. Duffy fighting 69th

        Chrisills. I agree with your assessments concerning MDM, and Papal actions. I have not stated with any certitude that Francis is the False Prophet, but I am gravely concerned at some of his actions and statements. My position is simply that Roman Catholics of good-faith need to be very careful in the coming days. We need to watch the official, concrete, actions of Francis and his Council of Eight, and then discern through prayer whether they cross the line into heresy. Honestly, I don’t think this is that difficult of a proposition, especially if one is firmly rooted in current Roman Catholic teaching. Any deviations from those teachings and my red flag will immediately go up! Alas, I am not a priest. My avatar/screen name is Fr. Duffy. He was a Roman Catholic chaplain who served in the trenches during WWI with the American unit the Fighting 69th. The Fighting 69th was a primarily Irish and Irish American. Fr. Duffy was know to constantly put his own life at risk to attend the wounded and dying in the battlefield. He would dispense the Sacraments while under German fire, and never wavered in his service to christian and non-christian soldiers alike. A very brave man, who brought christian charity up to a new level. I admire him greatly.

      • Chrisills

        Hi Duffy, thanks for the clarification.

        Wow, he sounds like one cool dude. I’m Welsh and haven’t heard of him until now, but I always like to hear of the heroics of a fellow Celt. Is that where the ‘Fighting Irish’ at Notre Dame University derive their name from the soldiers of WWII?

      • Chrisills

        Ooops, my mistake. Just done a search for Fr Duffy and he was Canadian. Still, what a brave priest. Need more like him, especially in these times when a spiritual battle is being fought.

      • Fr. Duffy fighting 69th

        Chrisills. With a name like Duffy I am sure he was a descendent of Celts, although not a Brythonic Celt like you. He was quite a man, and quite a priest. I have very fond memories of my travels through Wales during my university year abroad in the U.K. I am hoping to visit soon and do a walking tour of northern Wales

      • Chrisills

        Hi Duffy, small world. If you go to the visitwales.com website, then click on ‘things to do’, then click ‘activities’, you can find details of many walks available. Pembrokeshire is always nice, but that is West Wales. Enjoy your trip, but obviously don’t trip when you’re walking, lol.

      • Fr. Duffy fighting 69th

        Chrisills. Thanks for the tips. Perhaps we could meet for a cup of coffee after Mass while I am there. I suppose I better do a bit of online searching for Roman Catholic Churches before I go, as they may be few and far between in Wales, huh?

      • Chrisills

        Hi Duffy, thanks for the offer but I live in South Wales, so If you’re going to North Wales it would easily take half a day to travel the distance.

        This link is to the Archdiocese of Wrexham in the North of Wales.
        http://www.wrexhamdiocese.org.uk/index.asp

        This link is to the Archdiocese of Cardiff, the capital city, in South Wales.
        http://www.rcadc.co.uk/home.html

      • Fr. Duffy fighting 69th

        Thanks Chrisills, for the sites. I am shooting for September if I can carve out the time from work. I have some Welsh heritage, ‘Morgan’, on my mother’s side. I hope to do a bit of research on the family history before I go. Cheers.

      • The Wanderer, a Catholic magazine, published an article on Maria Divine Mercy. The article names Mary Carberry as MDM

        “End Times” Internet Seer… “Maria Divine Mercy” Has No Ecclesiastical Approval
        By DEXTER DUGGAN A campaign to launch sales of a religious medal by an internationally known seer who claims to be God’s last prophet was…
        THEWANDERERPRESS.COM

      • Fr. Duffy fighting 69th

        Thanks Aquiness, I take a look at it.

    • Fr. Duffy fighting 69th

      As I have stated previously. I am much more concerned about Francis, and the future of the Church than in the MDM debate. I read her messages, but I have not come to the absolute conclusion about her veracity and authenticity yet. I prefer to analyze the present state of affairs relating to the pillars of our Faith – Divinity of Jesus, Holy Trinity, True Presence, Sacraments, Blessed Mother, Communion of Saints and Promise of the Kingdom of Heaven after purification in Purgatory. And to fight any efforts to change or affect those Pillars.

      • …as usual u didn’t read what was written…demons are pure spirits and the decision of a pure spirit is final and unchanging…they do use discursive thinking…since they see the repercussions of their action beforehand…this mean their will is fixed..so they could not ask to be baptized…since demons cannot obey a divine precept they are eternal enemies opf God…to be baptized would require obedience to God..allegiance etc..and this they could not do..and the aliens who would ask for baptism would be true composite creatures..these are the ones Francis is alluding..but as aquiness said it is more a symbol of God’s magnanimity than anything else…watch much X-files…u may be paranoid..that is fine but it doesn’t help stoking the paranoia of others…and insulting the pope ina public forum without bias is endemic to a proud heart…

      • ..sorry that is they do NOT use discursive reasoning..i was typing through a phone..

      • Fr. Duffy fighting 69th

        I don’t watch X-Files. However, I spent ten long years in deliverance and exorcism ministry. So don’t you ever lecture me about the nature of evil, or the action of evil spirits. Is that clear…?

      • ..tribute to u on your work..however it matters not if you’ve cowed a thousand demons..it doesnt give you the license to pile vituperations upon the pope…or to attempt to exorcize the vatican…the pope is also educated and devoted to his difficult job…and he doesnt need people as yourself making it any more difficult..especially from a professed catholic it is quite pathetic to read most of the precipitous comments which are aimed at discrediting the pope..this scripture came to mind immediately ..and it is quite apposite for this occaision….” Not every one that saith to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven: but he that doth the will of my Father who is in heaven, he shall enter into the kingdom of heaven. [22] Many will say to me in that day: Lord, Lord, have not we prophesied in thy name, and cast out devils in thy name, and done many miracles in thy name? [23] And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity. [24] Every one therefore that heareth these my words, and doth them, shall be likened to a wise man that built his house upon a rock, [25] And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and they beat upon that house, and it fell not, for it was founded on a rock.”….anyway u can save your termagant chides for the demons..take care

      • PocketSketch

        Fr. Duffy, The Church is the pillar and foundation of truth.
        (1 Timothy 3:15) You can’t pick and choose what parts of the Deposit of Faith you will believe and which ones you can set aside.

        Frankly, Fr. Duffy, your reasoning parallels much of the offal found on the Biblical False Prophet website. “May the Lord rebuke you.” Jude 1:9

    • Chrisills

      Hi Duffy, small world. If you go to the visitwales.com website, then click on ‘things to do’, then click ‘activities’, you can find details of many walks available. Pembrokeshire is always nice, but that is West Wales. Enjoy your trip, but obviously don’t trip when you’re walking, lol.

  19. Doccus

    I left a lengthy critique of my suspicions yesterday regarding the Warning site. Although my observations are , I believe , quite valid, there is one point in support of it that I feel I MUST point out.
    God can, and will, use anybody, any way He so chooses, regardless of station, to accomplish His purposes. He is no respecter of persons, or perceived “holiness”.. Messages have come from saints and sinners alike, and are not stopped simply because we have now entered into a technological society.
    Because of that I will still reserve judgement on the site. As long as it doesn’t espouse violating the 10 commandments , I think I will be OK..
    Just thought I should add this to my previous long comment..
    GBY all!

    • PocketSketch

      I beg to differ. God’s commandments and the Church’s precepts are violated routinely by this seer and her disciples who promote her.

      “Detraction and calumny destroy the reputation and honor of one’s neighbor. Honor is the social witness given to human dignity, and everyone enjoys a natural right to the honor of his name and reputation and to respect. Thus, detraction and calumny offend against the virtues of justice and charity.” Catechism no. 2479

      “Neither shall you bear false witness against your neighbor” (Deut. 5:20)

      What is detraction? “He becomes guilty of detraction who, WITHOUT OBJECTIVELY VALID REASON, discloses another’s faults and failings to persons who did not know them” CCC2477

      “The vice of detraction, my brethren, is an enemy to the very source of piety and grace, and it is abominable to the most merciful God; because the detractor feeds on the blood of the souls he has murdered with the sword of his tongue. The impiety of the detractor is far greater than that of the thief, because the law of Christ which is fulfilled by showing mercy commands us to desire more ardently the salvation of the soul, than the safety of the body. The Religious {or the Catholic layperson} who murmurs against his brethren or his superiors, {the entire college of Cardinals who colluded together in an evil Masonic plot to elect the False Prophet, Pope Francis} what does he do but drench his Mother, holy religion, with the gall of bitterness and insults? Detractors are of the generation of Ham who ridiculed the shame of his father instead of covering it . . . and they consequently deserve to be cursed by God. These like swine wallow in mire; for, after the manner of these unclean animals (being themselves far more unclean in their consciences), they feed and gorge themselves on the defects and weaknesses which they curiously seek for, and also falsely affirm they see and find in others; like mad dogs, they grumble . . .they bite. . .

      Alas, miserable man, feed yourself upon human flesh.” St. Francis, ‘Works of the Seraphic Father”

    • According to MDM the twelve apostles were all poor ignorant fishermen. This proves that the messages are false.

      • Stephen

        Of course some of them were but others were well-educated. which message said they all were?

      • aquiness

        According to Mary Carberry the Catholic Church no longer has the power and authority that was first given to Peter…No absolution..no graces etc etc etc. It doesn’t need Einstein to work out she is completely false!

      • Stephen

        The first part of your comment is true. The keys of Peter have been taken back by our Lord. The second part is false. Nowhere is it stated by our Lord that the sacraments are voided. Indeed, it will be the False Prophet and Antichrist who nullify Holy Communion as is clearly stated in many of the messages as well as in Scripture. All sacramental grace is still available. Forgive me if I’m wrong but I doubt if the objectors to JTM have read many of the 1200 or so messages to Maria. You act like protestants who take one verse of Scripture and make a doctrine out of it. Also, as you likely do not pray the crusade prayers because you are terrified you will be possessed by evil spirits or whatever, you remain without discernment . Cite to me ONE crusade prayer that is opposed to orthodoxy.

      • aquiness

        “Nowhere is it stated by our Lord that the sacraments are voided.”…lol Stephen if the Catholic Church no longer has the ‘keys’ which are symbolic for the power and authority given to Peter the apostles and their successors then we are just another Protestant denomination! So Mary Carberry tells you..the keys have gone…but don’t worry they still have the authority, then what was the point in taking the keys in the first place….lol Oh dear!

      • w

        @ aquiness regarding
        May 7, 2014 at 6:16 pm

        According to Mary Carberry the Catholic Church no longer has the power and authority that was first given to Peter…No absolution..no graces etc etc etc. It doesn’t need Einstein to work out she is completely false!

        YOU SAY A LOT OF FALSE THINGS ABOUT WHAT YOU SUPPOSEDLY HAVE READ/DOES THAT MAKE YOU COMPLETELY FALSE…+<3
        More–From 2011:

        Japanese church officials have confirmed that the Diocese of Sendai, in the north of the country, was hit hardest by the 8.8 magnitude earthquake – the worst in Japanese history – and the resulting 23-foot waves.

        Hundreds of people have already been confirmed dead in the city of Sendai, located less than 90 miles away from the apparition site of Our Lady of Akita in the town of Yuzawa.

        The city of Akita, which experienced fire damage and flooding along with many parts of northern Japan, is a place of veneration for Catholics.

        In 1973, the Virgin Mary was said to have predicted a number of future events – including natural disasters even more serious than Friday's earthquake and tsunami – during three appearances to a Japanese religious sister, Sr. Agnes Sasagawa.

        The purported appearances of the Virgin Mary in Japan were reviewed by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger in 1988. During his time as Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith prior to his election as Pope Benedict XVI, he let stand the local bishop’s judgment that the apparitions and the messages were acceptable for the faithful.

        The messages warned of chaos within the Church, and disasters which could afflict the world.

        “If men do not repent and better themselves, God the Father will inflict a terrible punishment on all humanity,” Mary reportedly told Sr. Agnes. “It will be a punishment greater than the (biblical) flood, such as never seen before.”

        “Fire will fall from the sky and will wipe out a great part of humanity, the good as well as the bad, sparing neither priests nor faithful,” she said. “The work of the devil will infiltrate even into the Church, in such a way that one will see cardinals opposing cardinals, bishops against bishops.”

        “Churches and altars will be sacked. The Church will be full of those who accept compromises, and the demon will press many priests and consecrated souls to leave the service of the Lord.”

        “Each day, recite the prayers of the Rosary,” she told Sr. Agnes. “With the Rosary, pray for the Pope, the bishops and priests.”

      • aquiness

        According to Mary Carberry the Catholic Church no longer has the power and authority that was first given to Peter…No absolution..no graces etc etc etc. It doesn’t need Einstein to work out she is completely false!

        You replied…”YOU SAY A LOT OF FALSE THINGS ABOUT WHAT YOU SUPPOSEDLY HAVE READ/DOES THAT MAKE YOU COMPLETELY FALSE…+<3"

        It was written in the 'book of truth' that the Church no longer has the "keys" to "bind and loose" …so you figure it out.

      • w

        your time 616 seems to be associated with your post…you know what that means+<3–do u?

      • PocketSketch

        To Stephen who rightly assumed we do not pray the Crusade Prayers and who wanted to know if they contain error. We are Catholics and we have volumes of beautiful prayers, many written by saints. We have all the Psalms to pray from and the Liturgy of the Hours. We can pick up the Bible and pray to God using the words of Abraham, Moses, Joseph or any of the other great patriarchs. We can pray with the words of King David or lament with the great prophets or Job. We unite in prayer with all the great cloud of witnesses that surround us, the martyrs, the Apostles and the evangelists. We pray the Magnificat of Mary, the hymn of praise of Zachariah and we join with the cherubim and seraphim to chant the thrice Holy hymn. Why would we waste our time with the writings of a woman who hates our family, the Church, to the point that she condemns Pope Francis to the eternal abyss? You have a sense of humor. Why would we exchange our heritage as did Esau for a bowl of soup. Correction. Carberry has nothing edible to offer, only empty promises.

    • ….violation of 4th commandment honour your father and mother…catechism 2197… we are obliged to honour and respect those individuals who for our good God has vested with his authority…we cannot have God for a father if we do not accept mother Church…the formal schismatics of the MDM ilk break the thread of charity which knits together the commandments of God and so disturb the sanctified immanence of God such a prolapse of authority pulls one into the sins of idolatry the tedium of pride and the slavery of relativism…. amen

      • Stephen

        You make a lot of rash assumptions about how MDMers feel about Church authority. I can speak only for myself, but it became clear after my conversion to Catholicism from Protestantism that I had now a true compass to live by and doctrinal ambivalence was now a thing of the past.
        However, to my consternation, I observed all sorts of factions of various levels of misunderstanding of Church teaching, outright heresy, liturgical abuse etc. I realized that there is a difference between respecting authority on the one hand, and trusting it for Truth on the other. Are we not entitled to expect orthodoxy from our clerics and, yes, be offended if we get rubbish?
        And, sadly, that rubbish has now started to spew forth from the highest office . Listen, if the fox is now in charge of the henhouse, it may be time for the Church to leave the henhouse.

      • aquiness

        ERROR….. MDM March 18th, 2011 “Defend these Messages. Respect this Most Holy Scripture.

        The Catechism of the Catholic Church teaches that….” It was by the apostolic Tradition that the Church discerned which writings are to be included in the list of the sacred books. This COMPLETE list is called the canon of Scripture. It includes 46 books for the Old Testament and 27 for the New. CCC 120

        So there can be no new addition to the listed books of the Bible which constitute the established Canon.

        It doesn’t worry the followers that Mary Carberry is starting up a new church, complete with scripture…the book of truth! Remember the prophecy in scripture regarding the coming schism….you followers are causing it!

      • …@stephen… the pope is the embodiment of the temporal head of the mystical body of believers..you cannot have a fully potentiated body without a head…you are making the mistake of affiriming a disjunct by saying God is many yet he is not one (unified)…God is many by order of his powers and his creatures yet he is one through the perfection of his WORD which is Jesus the word made flesh…there is no temporal Church without a pope..and so through your calculus of reason the immutable God is divided which is no true….a rash assumption is one made without careful deliberation..after careful deliberation i believe you are guilty of a tu quoque here ..the pot calling the kettle black…we need temperance and prudence and not throw out the baby with the bath water…faith without works..if the flowers of our works do not yield the fruits of virtue then we must blame ourselves and not the prelates who guide us…without trust we cannot claim to have faith..yet a well ordered conscience based in knowledge is important..so study the faith so you are not led astray by prelates who sometimes speak out of turn..abide by the commandments and the infallible councils..to say the Church is being led by a serpent is indeed insane to say the least..by saying this you call God evil ..God does not sin and always leaves us recourse to guidance

      • Fink

        To Stephen:

        “Which messages said they were?”
        Try the one for 1st September 2013.
        Here, and in so many other places, Mary Carberry`s own words condemn her. The Father of lies is taking full advantage of her ignorance of Scripture (and its interpretation) and Church teaching in general. She`s incapable ot thinking with the Mind of the Church. You mentioned elsewhere that you`re a convert to Catholicism; and i suspect that you`re in the same boat.
        Along with anything else, there`s still the spirit/outlook of Protestantism.

      • Stephen

        There is nothing logically required in any statement on the canon of Scripture to conclude that God could not add to His Word whatever He wills. After all don’t the Jews accuse Christians of doing that very thing by adding the New Testament? The Old Testament corresponds to the Fiat of Creation. The New Testament corresponds to the Fiat of Redemption. It seems reasonable to expect some future canon for the Fiat of Sanctification. I refer here when using the three ages or fiats to the writings of Luisa Peccereta whose cause for beatification continues to move forward.

      • aquiness

        “There is nothing logically required in any statement on the canon of Scripture to conclude that God could not add to His Word whatever He wills.”

        Stephen you know that the Church, under guidance of the Holy Spirit completed the canon and it took many years to do this…so someone can’t just come along and claim their writings are scripture! It seems that no matter what Mary says to you…no matter how ridiculous her statements you just have to believe them…even if it means going against Christ’s Church…Unbelievable!

      • Stephen

        Research suggests 4 FISHERMAN ( Peter, James, John, Andrew), 7 UNKNOWN (Philip , Bartholemew, Thomas, James, Thaddeus, Simon, Judas) and 1 tax collector. Key point you missed by splitting hairs: they were all ignorant of Scripture so they would not be malformed by the religious Know-it- alls of their day. Especially the so – called elites of the synagogue the Pharisees.

      • Doccus

        Who were the prevailing priests in Jerusalem anyways? The Pharisees, or the Saduccees? Just like the Sunni and Shi-ite muslems, the isrtaeluis had a very hostile split between them , because of the massive disagreement in scripture.. essentially, one said they sleep on the ground after death, the other said they sleep in heaven..
        You can see how they would hate each other because of this, just like the muslems that say mohameds wife continued ther line, as opposed to the others that say his sonm did.
        Naturally they would have to kill each other over such a bid difference.
        We are no better even NOW, because we have condemned the Oryhodox that are almost IDENTICAL in every way! We haven’t killed each other over it yet, over the difference that Constantine was the pope, as opposed to the orthodox that say he wasn’t
        Or perhaps over messages too?

      • aquiness

        “Now seeing the constancy of Peter and of John, understanding that they were illiterate and ignorant men, they wondered; and they knew them that they had been with Jesus.” Acts 4

        It was the enemies of Christ who called them ignorant….just like the entity that dictates to Mary. 😦 .All Jewish boys were given an education in the Torah.

      • Fink

        To Stephen:
        “There is nothing logically required in any statement on the canon of Scripture to conclude that God could not add to His Word whenever He wills.”
        …except that the Church infallibly teaches that Public Revelation ceased when Saint John (the Evangelist) died. The Church`s statement is a matter of Faith.

        My fears have been realised: some of your “good” Catholic “friends” have sucked you into the Divine Will Movement, complete with its distorted/grossly inflated and elitist interpretations of Louisa`s writings. What other suspect or condemned stuff have your “friends” sucked you into?

        Instead of immersing yourself in all of this at best questionable material, it`d be much safer to learn about the Church, Her teachings, the Nature/inner LIfe of God etc. It`d be time well spent. Learn to think with the mind of the Church. At present, you`re not doing that!

        A convert, full of zeal, can be a sitting duck for the peddlers of MDM et al. Sadly, i`ve witnessed it.

        To Doccus:
        Constantine was never a pope; he was a Roman Emperor.
        Anti-Catholic “Christians”, eg Jack Chick, claim that Constantine was the first Pope. FALSE!

      • Doccus

        Actually, incorrect. Although he didn’t hold the title for long, he was , in fact “Pontifex Maxinus”, for a short while.. there wasn’t any other toitle yet established for popes
        from http://www.philvaz.com/apologetics/a104.htm:
        “. Now, oddly enough, the first Christian emperors all still retained the title of Pontifex Maximus (a traditional title for Emperors) which, under imperial law (though not Church law), actually made them the “Head of the Church” ! It was by this authority, for example, that Constantine called the Council of Nicaea (325 AD) to settle the Arian controversy.”

      • Fink

        PS
        For a poor ignorant fisherman, Peter sure showed a good grasp of (OT) Scripture when he called for a replacement for Judas: “Let his habitation be made desolate…Let another take his office.”

        PPS
        What Warning?
        Another assumption from questionable sources!

      • Fink

        To Doccus:
        Point taken regarding “Pontifex Maximus” (That article jogged my memory.), but it`s misleading to say that Constantine was the first POPE! As Catholics, we don`t (at least in informal discussion, if ever) use the term “pope” when referring to any Roman emperor. This would be dangerous, especially when in the company of non-Catholics.

        The growing number of MDM condemnations from bishops et al adds to the already overwhelming evidence against Mary Carberry and her sulphurous source.

  20. The Apparitions and Messages of Our Lady of the Roses, Mary Help of Mothers (a.k.a. Bayside) have never been condemned!! There has never been a Church-ruled investigation into the Apparitions and Messages.

    I have been a devotee of Our Lady of the Roses, since 1983 and I have been to at least 45 Rosary Vigils at Bayside. I saw Our Lady there, myself, during the first Rosary Vigil that I attended, which was on August 13th., 1983 — In Honor of The Feast of The Assumption of Our Lady into Heaven, Body and Soul. Here is the web site where you can find out more information about Her Apparitions and Messages and also an explanation regarding how Her Apparitions and Messages were never investigated according to Church rules and regulations: http://www.smwa.org/

    • PocketSketch

      DECLARATION CONCERNING THE “BAYSIDE MOVEMENT”

      November 4, 1986

      Letter of Bishop John Mugavero of Brooklyn

      In recent months, doubts have been raised by members of the so-called “Bayside Movement” concerning the official position of the Diocese of Brooklyn on the alleged “apparitions” of the Blessed Virgin Mary, and other heavenly beings, to a woman by the name of Veronica Lueken.

      Moreover, erroneous claims have been made by a number of followers of Mrs. Lueken concerning the legitimacy of their position, in order to justify their activities on behalf of the “Movement.” These have taken the form of statements in their publications that “since Articles 1399 and 2218 of (the 1917 Code of) Canon Law were abrogated by Pope Paul VI in 1966, no ecclesiastical permission is required, neither can anyone incurr censure, for the publication or dissemination of information dealing with revelations, visions or miracles, provided these do not endanger Faith or morals.”

      As a result of the above-mentioned doubts and claims, a number of Christ’s faithful continue to attend the regularly-scheduled “vigils” held at Flushing Meadow Park, and to disseminate or receive propaganda literature on this matter.

      I, the undersigned Diocesan Bishop of Brooklyn, in my role as the legitimate shepherd of this particular Church, wish to confirm the constant position of the Diocese of Brooklyn that a thorough investigation revealed that the alleged “visions of Bayside” completely lacked authenticity.

      Moreover, in view of the confusion created by published reports of messages and other literature by this “Movement,” I consider it my obligation to offer Christ’s faithful pastoral guidance, lest their faith be endangered by “messages” and “teachings” relayed by “visionaries,” which are contrary to the Faith of our Catholic Church.

      Therefore, in consultation with the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, I hereby declare that:

      1. No credibility can be given to the so-called “apparitions” reported by Veronica Lueken and her followers.

      2. The “messages” and other related propaganda contain statements which, among other things, are contrary to the teachings of the Catholic Church, undermine the legitimate authority of bishops and councils and instill doubts in the minds of the faithful, for example, by claiming that, for years, an “imposter (sic) Pope” governed the Catholic Church in place of Paul VI.

      3. Those who persistently maintain that “no ecclesiastical permission is required for the publication or dissemination” of information concerning “revelations, visions or miracles,” are erroneously interpreting the directives of the Holy See when they attempt to justify the publication of the propaganda literature on the “Bayside Messages.”

      In view of my declaration concerning the authenticity of the “visions of Bayside,” the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith has confirmed that the principles governing the publication of such religious material still maintain authoritative moral value prohibiting the endangering of faith and good morals (Cf. Response of SCDF of June 14, 1966, in AAS 58, 1186).

      As a result, those publishing or disseminating this propaganda literature are acting against the judgment of legitimate Church authority.

      4. Because of my concern for their spiritual welfare, members of Christ’s faithful are hereby directed to refrain from participating in the “vigils” and from disseminating any propaganda related to the “Bayside apparitions.” They are also discouraged from reading any such literature.

      5. Anyone promoting this devotion in any way, be it by participating in the “vigils,” organizing pilgrimages, publishing or disseminating the literature related to it, is contributing to the confusion which is being created in the faith of God’s people, as well as encouraging them to act against the determinations made by the legitimate pastor of this particular Church (c.212, para. 1).

      It remains my constant hope that all the faithful spend their time and energies in promoting devotion to our Blessed Lady, in the many forms which have been approved by the Catholic Church.

      (Signed):

      Bishop John Mugavero Bishop of Brooklyn

      Bishop Francis John Mugavero (born 8 Jun 1914, died 12 Jul 1991) Bishop Emeritus of Brooklyn. Appointed bishop of Brooklyn 1968; retired in 1990; died 1991 at age 77.

      • Chris Tye

        Wrong, Bayside was never “condemned.” Bishop Catanello, now deceased, has confirmed this. No investigation was ever done and refused by Bishop Mugavero even though Veronica Lueken requested an investigation and she was turned down. Mugavero at that time was involved with a scandal in the Brooklyn Diocese of sex abuse with minors:

        Priest-Sex Suit Seeks $300M Diocese of B’klyn Hit
        By Barbara Ross and Dave Goldiner
        New York Daily News
        October 16, 2002

        A new $300 million lawsuit accuses top Brooklyn Diocese church leaders of “aiding and abetting” priests who allegedly molested 42 children over four decades. The suit – filed yesterday in Queens Supreme Court – claims that Bishop Thomas Daily, his predecessor and a top aide covered up child-sex charges and shuffled accused priests from parish to parish without warning parents.

        One Queens priest allegedly fondled dozens of boys and girls on the steps of the altar, in a parish school and even in a luxury box at Shea Stadium, the suit claims.

        “This kind of abuse would have been impossible without the knowing silence of people high in authority,” said lawyer Michael Dowd, who filed the suit on behalf of the alleged victims. “They allowed other children to be raped and sodomized over decades.”
        Dowd charged that church leaders even maintained a secret bank account called the Good Shepherd Fund, with which they bought victims’ silence.

        “The men who have done this – not only the abusers but the facilitators – are outlaws who have attempted to hijack the Catholic Church,” Dowd said.

        Mugavero implicated

        Dowd also dropped a bombshell accusation: That Bishop Francis Mugavero, Daily’s predecessor, ignored the abuse allegations because he was gay.

        Dowd charged at a press conference yesterday that Mugavero, who died in 1991, was “living in a glass house” and feared that his own sexual relationships with adult men might become public if he cracked down on abusive priests. That allegation was not in the court papers.

  21. vasili veritas

    we all should examine our own consciences before denouncing any alleged seer is it not the case that some bishops in the past have made some excommunications only to later admit that they had acted unwisely (no doubt in good faith?) in Australia eg our first canonised st mary mckillop? not even the Pope is infallible( when not speaking EX CATHEDRA?) yes our Great Loving God does not want ANYONE to be damned !!! BUT HE has given us the awesome gift of FREE will …!!! He allows us all to freely CHOOSE !!!

    • PocketSketch

      To Vasili Veritas: Yes, bishops can make mistakes but the decision is part of their duty not ours. Our task is obedience; theirs is discernment. Furthermore, on more than one occasion, Mary McGovern has damned to the eternal abyss Pope Francis and all Catholics who remain loyal to him. Since you proclaim the “awesome gift of FREE will” those curses should be a red flag.

      “It is our duty to obey those presbyters who are in the Church who have their succession from the apostles. . . the others who stand apart from the primitive succession and assemble in any place whatever we ought to regard with suspicion either as heretics and unsound in doctrine or as schismatics . . . all have fallen away from the truth. (Irenaeus: Against Heresies, 4:26)

      • Stephen

        It’s not Maria who is condemning the False Prophet and his followers (by then not so Catholic as Satanist) to the Abyss. Sacred Scripture tells us this. The real issue is whether or not Francis is the False Prophet. I believe so but soon we will know for sure because he is getting on in years. If he is to form the Harlot church/ One world religion , it’s imminent.

      • aquiness

        Anyone who knows their faith knows that we do not have to believe in private revelation…yet the entity who dictates his words to Mary Carberry tells us what will happen to us if we reject his messages.

        “You will crawl on your stomachs and scream out for Me. You, who blasphemed against Me, will want to cut out your tongues, for you will realise then how your words have insulted Me. I await this day patiently, but should you stand before Me and prevent Me from reaching out to souls, I will cut you down. Should you continue to blaspheme against Me, by declaring My Messages to be the work of the devil, then you will never be forgiven. For this is the greatest sin against God.” (May 24, 2013,

      • aquiness

        “It’s not Maria who is condemning the False Prophet and his followers (by then not so Catholic as Satanist) to the Abyss. Sacred Scripture tells us this. ”

        No Stephen Scripture does not tell you a Pope is the false prophet..Mary Carberry tells you this….

        MDM “The cunning imposter, who has lain in waiting in the wings, patiently, will soon declare his reign over My poor unsuspecting sacred servants.”

        “He has carefully manipulated his position and soon his pompous demeanor will be seen amidst his splendid court. His pride, arrogance and self-obsession will be carefully hidden from the world in the beginning. To the outside world, a sigh of relief will be heard as the trumpets peal out to announce his term as head of My Church. ”

        “His loyalty is to the beast and how he will laugh and sneer at My sacred servants who will support him. He who dares to sit in My Temple, and who has been sent by the evil one, cannot speak the truth, for he does not come from Me. He has been sent to dismantle My Church and tear it up into little pieces before he will spit it out from his vile mouth.” March 8th 2013

        “The real issue is whether or not Francis is the False Prophet.”

        You are following a false prophet, who hides in her basement and she tells you your Pope is false and you believe her? Beam me up Scotty!

    • Stephen

      aquiness. After the Warning I fully expect that good well-meaning Catholics like yourself who are sincerely defending the Faith will come to the realization of Who is it that is speaking at this time in history.

      • aquiness

        Hi Stephen,

        I think that during the Warning you will be shown exactly who is talking to Mary and you will be terrified…Scary!

        God Bless.

  22. David

    Nothing the world has to offer can bring you true comfort in your times of need. Only I, Jesus Christ, can grant you the peace of mind and the strength and courage to withstand hatred, injustice, persecution and isolation. I must be your first choice in you time of need, when you must call out to Me. Only I will bring you calm, peace and freedom from anxiety, for I am Love and when love resides in your soul you can do anything.

    Your Jesus.

    The above text is an extract given in one of the messages by Maria Divine Mercy. How then can you say that this is a work of the devil?? This is indeed a mission which has been blessed by the Most Holy Trinity. Our Blessed Mother of Salvation also speaks to us through them. Please help spread the messages to the whole world, as God does not want to lose one soul to the devil. He loves everyone equally and will do whatever he can to save each and everyone of us sinners. God bless You all. Let’s help save souls!!!

    • aquiness

      David read the following….(1) “Soon, now your Holy Father will be replaced with one who is not of Me. And he will change much, he will begin the destruction of My Church in earnest. Are you ready to fight for the Truth? Many will fall in this time. Pray much, children, that you are not one of them. I Love you and I ask that you be willing to do all that I ask. I Love you.”

      (2) The Anti-Pope and Antichrist shall come forth and declare many ways to rebuild the Church and the world. Woe to those who follow their heresies and lies. This time is when the Remnant Church shall exist. This will be the time the Apostles and Disciples of the Blessed Virgin Mary shall provide you Holy Hope and Faith. Jesus.”

      (3) “So infested are they, those who roam the corridors of Rome, that the biggest sign will be seen in the chaos, which will ensue, as they adhere to the command of the imposter. Chaos, disorder, division and contradiction will be seen everywhere in Rome. This disorder comes from Satan for it cannot come from God.”

      All these writings sound the same. In fact it’s difficult to choose which one came from what seer. They all predict a coming anti-pope, who will change the teachings of the Church..yet, they all claim the anti-pope to be a different Pope!

      David you posted….” How then can you say that this is a work of the devil??” Read on…..

      “Pope Benedict XV1 is the “Deceiver” the “Anti-Pope”….”Do not allow yourselves to be deceived for the deceiver is among you. Rise up, My children, and hold on to the Truth of My Ways; do not forget My servant, John Paul II. Do not forget the words that he has given to you for they are My Words given to bring you through these times.”

      They all warn.. “Do not allow yourselves to be deceived for the deceiver is among you.” … It would be funny if it wasn’t so serious. The deceiver is certainly among us, but it wasn’t Pope Benedict, and it is’t Pope Francis. The “deceiver” is the Father of all lies himself! Satan masquerading as an “angel of light” in order to deceive god’s children. Sadly, many today follow these false prophets whose new claim today is that Pope Francis is the “deceiver” – the reason follow? Because they ‘feel’ these messages can only come from God.

      • Stephen

        How does this argument prove that all prophets are false? In the OLD days there were tons of false prophets (140 prophets of Baal) hanging around in Elijah’s time- and only he to oppose them. Leaving MDM aside you would think that SAINT FRANCIS is owed a bit of respect for prophesying a DESTROYER pastor UN-CANONICALLY ELECTED.

  23. David

    Hi PocketSketch, you are indeed a strong follower of the word of God! Yet, it’s sad that you’re finding it difficult to believe in these messages which also come from him.. like Jesus said “if he were to reveal himself to he world now, just like how he did when he was on earth, he would be assassinated because of the pure evil that exists” He’s coming to us in the silence, so that you can hear his voice, as he speaks with love. If you don’t take my word for it, I guess only time will reveal to you.. I can see we both are going now where with this conversation. Hence, we can only pray for each other!! I know for sure, that I will keep you in my prayers.. God Bless 🙂

    • ADAM HORDOS

      Did you ever hear about jim jones. when you criticize the holy Father you have excommunicated yourself.

    • PocketSketch

      David, Thank you for your prayers. As for your comment that Jesus would be “assassinated” should He appear again I am happy to inform you that this narrative you have adopted from Mary Carberry is complete balderdash. Jesus is God the Son who reigns now in power at the right hand of His Father in glory. At His Second Coming no one will lay a hand on Him. To claim otherwise is to repudiate the Creed and the Church which eagerly anticipates the second Advent of Christ every time the “Our Father” is recited, every time the Creed is professed and every time the Sacred Liturgy of the Most Holy Eucharist is celebrated.

      By the way, David, at the Second Coming of the Alpha and the Omega He will have no need of the services of your prophet to announce Him. (her claim, not mine) According to Jewish apocalyptic literature it is St. Michael the Archangel who will sound the trumpet. Does MDM, the so called seventh angel, want to jostle with him for position? I think not.

      • Stephen

        Jesus can use whomever He wants whenever He wants. You are absolutely correct. In fact, he doesn’t need anyone of us to accomplish His Divine Will. Yet, he chooses to use all of us in some way. If there were prophetic announcements to herald his first coming, why could it not be assumed that He would do the same at His Second Coming

  24. MDM is 100% true, this is what I believe, sorry, and I have no doubt about this anymore. Pope Francis is getting more and more popular among atheists, and something is really really wrong when atheist are willing to like a pope. And yet, this is what happening. Just look at the comment sections wherever Francis is mentioned, He is loved by a secular, unfaithfull world, because his PR machine works really well. Just it was written by MDM before he was “elected”.

    • ..bad logic..this appeal to personal incredulity or a reverse shill gambit mocks the beauty of Christ’s Commission in this instance harming the good name of Francis as Peter’s successor…this is a Pharisaical mentality because Francis sits with sinners does not make him a sinner…read your bible…MDM prophecy is vapid callow nonsense..only a penny-bright fiend who failed counterfeit prophecy 101 would ever try to pan off these messages to the faithful and expect them to be taken seriously…studiousness is a virtue we should all strive for according to our capacity to understand the evident truths of the Church..yet God gives us many tools to be saved ..yet we insult God by using our own broken implements …use the tools God has given to know him..the Church the canons the catechism the traditions the sacramental life….”education without virtue only makes one a more clever devil..”- CS LEWIS ..MDM and her legions characterize the new modernist army whose banner proclaims disdain for authority and whose irreligious iinvective decries a turpitude for truth yet cloaking everything in a false piety..its a plastic religion complete with plastic prayers and plastic seals of salvation..worthless !!!! MDM & followers excommunicated a jure latae sententiae..save yourself confess your sins and get back with the Church… 🙂

      • .should read…decries truth for moral turpitude… cloaking everything…sorry need to perpend my thoughts more succintly before i post…thanks for the great blog post 🙂

    • PocketSketch

      Sorry Robbye. If you believe Carberry is 100% true than you would agree with her that Pope Francis is going to be thrown into the abyss along with the billion plus Catholic faithful who are still loyal to the Church. Do you really believe it is a mortal sin to be loved by atheists? Do you really think the faithful deserve such a cruel fate? If so, you judge rashly. You will be held accountable for your every word. Weigh them carefully and tremble with fear before you would dare write such calumny against the chosen and anointed servant of the Lord.

      Put your faith and trust in Jesus and Holy Mother Church. As it is, you are sucking poison, not milk, from a venomous breast.

  25. Wes

    All i can say is read the messages, They are full of love and have changed my life. I will continue to read them and have full faith in them

    • Fink

      Wes:
      “I will continue to read them and have full faith in them.”
      …in spite of the fact that they`re full of heresy, and utter threats against us “unbelievers”???

      • Fr. Duffy fighting 69th

        Hey Fink. That is a lie, and a misrepresentation of the MDM. And typical of you, and Pocketsketch and JohnKonner72. You and your minions are SO FEARFUL of any criticism of a mortal man, Francis, that you resort to lies and slander. Just like the Pharisees.

      • ..the MDMers are simply operating on an the old atheist rationalist dictum..which is the informal heap paradox fallacy or Sorites..where one removes the line of truth to allow a contrary subjective assertion to appear just as reasonable a proposition….the fallacy of the Bald Man…ie the MDMers are replacing revelation and tradition with speculation…thereby calling into uncertainty God’s truths…effectively tearing away the walls of the Church…to claim that we dont know who the pope is at the present moment ie the truth or have certitude and so are able to cast our obedience elsewhere qua on dubious prophecy is wrong and shows such people are greatly deceived by their own imagination..this is willful disparagement of the Church which Christ built on Peter who is the temporal rock and the Church itself is the mystical Body of Christ

      • Fink

        To “Fr. Duffy fighting 69th”:
        Are you saying that these “messages” don`t contain heresy, and haven`t made any threats against those of us who reject them?

        Your screen name… If it`s correct, you`d know that public revelation ceased when Saint John (the Evangelist) died, and no one is required to accept private revelations, apart from the actual recipients, and even then, ONLY after the Church has accepted them as being worthy of belief. As an example: apart from Bernardette, no Catholic was or is bound to accept the apparitions at Lourdes. So much for MDM`s threats against the rest of us!
        Continuing, you`d also be aware of the falsehood of the literal 1,000 year period. The title of one “message” is: “Know that the 1,000 years referred to in the Book of Revelation means just that”. The “message” then launches into an attack on “My sacred servants [who] denounce parts of the Holy Bible and throw them to one side”. A large section of Protestantism (especially fundamentalism) promotes millenarianism; the Church condemns it outright!
        And on it goes…hence the reason for the quotation marks.

        To remain a disciple of MDM ie Mary Carberry, who has been exposed so thoroughly, reveals a mindset in need of spiritual succour.

        A woman who has associated with a self-proclaimed medium!!! That association probably sums it up.

        For the benefit of us Pharisee types, would you please point out the “lies and slander”. Those words apply to Mary Carberry whose credibility has been buried under her own lies and slander.

        i mentioned this before: the word “diabolical” is derived from two words which mean “to tear apart”. This is exactly what the Father of lies is currently doing via all of the condemned alleged supernatural phenomena ravaging the world and sucking in countless gullible folks who refuse to look past their noses. Modern-day gnostics. “A wicked and perverse generation…” Looking for a spiritual high. Etc.

        Writer`s cramp. None of the above should have been necessary…shrug…unless you`re pulling my leg…

      • Fink

        To John:
        Thanks for your response.
        Pope John Paul II gave us Fides et Ratio for a good reason. It`s a pity that some folks seem to totally lack the Ratio!!! Plus a total lack of knowledge of the Church`s teachings on private revelation? Plus a refusal to know?

        PS:
        i`m glad to be associated with you and Pocketsketch and all of the other Pharisee types here. Hopefully, you others aren`t as frustrated by this blindness as i am…shrug!

    • PocketSketch

      This is a reply to Wes who said the messages are “full of love” and to Fr. Duffy who denied that Carberry has cursed the faithful for rejecting her voices. In point of fact, went so far as to call it “a lie.” The following is a single example to illustrate the corrosive, vindictive and malevolent nature of her replies to anyone who exposes her work of darkness. Satan has revealed his hand and boldly left his signature.

      “The day when the deceit of the beast will be exposed for all to see will be a day no one will forget. For that day, as the world will see the imposter, the antichrist, rise with My Crown on his head – dressed in the robes of red – will be the day when fire will pour from his mouth. As the horror finally sinks in, fire will envelop him and he and all those who pledged allegiance to him will be cast into the abyss.” Mary Carberry, Nov.12, 2013

      Who is the impostor? According to Carberry, within three days after the election of Pope Francis, she gave him this ignominious title and more. In other words, all the Catholics who remain loyal to the pope, who she has called both the imposter and the AntiChrist, will go to hell. That most definitely is a judgement and a curse on the faithful of the universal/Catholic Church of Jesus Christ.

      “So infested are they, those who roam the corridors of Rome, that the biggest sign will be seen in the chaos, which will ensue, as they adhere to the command of THE IMPOSTER. Chaos, disorder, division and contradiction will be seen everywhere in Rome…the time of the Apocalypse is near.” Carberry, March 16, 2013

      We will not abandon our free will to her demonic entities who demand blind obedience and curse us for keeping our feet firmly standing on the rock. Furthermore, it is the bishops who have warned the faithful that her “teachings are heretical.” (Bishop Fabbro, Aug.2013) After so many warnings and statements which go unheeded, we can see the conspiracy of MDM to lead her followers into disobedience. Indeed, history repeats itself. Only it is the People of the New Covenant who are in rebellion this time. Catholics obey the voice of God as given through His chosen ambassadors on earth, not some poor demented soul who lends her hand to Satan.

      “Obey my voice. Yet they did not obey or incline their ear, but everyone walked in the stubbornness of an evil will.” Jeremiah 11:7-8

  26. PocketSketch

    Wendy, It doesn’t sound like you are Catholic or know the true Word of God, let alone the traditional teaching of the Church about the kingdom of God, the Second Coming, the true nature of Christ, the Last Judgement and when the new heaven and the new earth will be created. What version of the Bible are your reading? Kindly, cite your sources for the benefit of Catholic readers who don’t know what you are talking about.

    “The very basic teaching of scripture” that the Catholic faithful understand and believe is the promise Jesus made to St. Peter in Matthew 16. We also take to heart the prayer of Jesus in John 17. We also believe that God’s covenant oath to King David (2 Sam.7) to establish an heir from his line who would rule forever was fulfilled at the first advent of Jesus. Jesus reigns today as king over heaven and earth and Pope Francis is His vicar, His prime minister. (See Isaiah 22) In our tradition, the new People of God are not waiting for the paradise on earth that Carberry has promised. Her paradise where “Jesus will never walk the earth again” and will rule invisibly falls far short of the kingdom of heaven where we will see God face to face.

    Our tradition is “Sacred” because it is according to God’s plan of salvation history. We want no part of doomsday prophets undermining o the true faith of the heavenly Spirit we have received. Carberry’s new “revelations,” which God neglected to reveal in the Gospels, according to her narrative, are absolutely ridiculous nonsense. Public divine revelation was closed with the death of the last apostle. We have received the “Good News.” Carberry and her underground network of seers who are stealing followers from the flock of the Good Shepherd will have their day of reckoning. She has no respect for God’s anointed. (See 1Sam. chapters 23,24, 26)

    Finally, your contention that Carberry “urges obedience” is nothing more than misleading propaganda. The only obedience she demands is obedience to her: the ‘last, great, chosen prophet of God who alone speaks the truth in the entire world today.’ (All titles she has appropriated for herself.) The hubris, arrogance and pretension of this seer is truly breathtaking.

    We can only pray the faithful, who have taken her words as Gospel truth, will finally wake up and shake her off like an infested cloak. Burn all her “literature” and paraphernalia; make a good confession and set yourselves free from this diabolical deception. Let Carberry’s words fall to dust and her medals crumble with rust.

    • w

      Thank you–admired PocketSketch.
      Please give me Leave to get back to this–Scriptures in hand.

      I believe we have a misunderstanding of words going on…+<3<3<3 🙂

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  28. …note the distinction between lambs and sheep..the sheep are those who are wise in the faith (prelates) while the lamb are the spiritual young (the lay people)..catena aurea theopyl…and so we can say anagogically the sheep are the magisterium and the lambs are the laity…the church is composed of both..Peter the temporal shepherd under the main shepherdric of Christ…we must listen to wise of the flock

    • w

      as well the sheep are judged “I WILL JUDGE BETWEEN SHEEP AND SHEEP”–my paraphrased memory 🙂 ; thank you; remember THIS!+<3wendy–ok? thanks, johnkonnor72; thanks

    • W

      EZEKIEL 14:15….

      1st version INDICATED NAME OF GOD USED IN CAPITALS=YAHUAH
      2nd version catholic=lord/god in its place

      15. I will feed my flock, and I will cause them to lie down, saith the Lord GOD. I will feed my sheep : and I will cause them to lie down, saith the Lord God.
      16. I will seek that which was lost: and that which was driven away, I will bring again: and I will bind up that which was broken, and I will strengthen that which was weak, and that which was fat and strong I will preserve: and I will feed them in judgment.
      17. And as for you, O my flock, thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I judge between cattle and cattle, between the rams and the he goats. And as for you, O my flocks, thus saith the Lord God: Behold I judge between cattle and cattle, of rams and of he goats.
      18. Was it not enough for you to feed upon good pastures? but you must also tread down with your feet the residue of your pastures: and when you drank the dearest water, you troubled the rest with your feet.
      19. And my sheep were fed with that which you had trodden with your feet: and they drank what your feet had troubled.
      20. Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD unto them; Behold, I, even I, will judge between the fat cattle and between the lean cattle. Therefore thus saith the Lord God to you: Behold, I myself will judge between the fat cattle and the lean.
      21. Because ye have thrust with side and with shoulder, and pushed all the diseased with your horns, till ye have scattered them abroad; Because you thrusted with sides and shoulders, and struck all the weak cattle with your horns, till they were scattered abroad:
      22. Therefore will I save my flock, and they shall no more be a prey; and I will judge between cattle and cattle. I will save my dock, and it shall be no more a spoil, and I will judge between cattle and cattle.
      <+3–i invite more thanks!!

  29. Fink

    PS
    Pope Benedict stated that he was stepping down of his own free will, and we should have more respect for his integrity than to believe he was forced to say that. Even if his enemies had threatened him with death, i`m convinced he would have told us the truth, regardless of the consequences to himself.

    The word “diabolical” comes from two words which mean to “tear apart”. How true!

    MDM followers: break away from the false prophetess Mary Carberry, and listen to the Holy Spirit-guided Church.

  30. Mairead Smyth

    Dear friends in Christ as one wo was called to receive direction from God over a period of years related to a special mission God called me to I appeal to readers of MDM to realize that she like me had never sought to receive a special mission on the contrary she had difficulty initially in coming to terms with what was happening to her life..I also had similarily
    I ask you to try to imagine how when God calls you to a special mission for your life this entails giving up your own plans for your future and when one is married the impact it will have on your husband and family. It is always going to mean great sacrifice and possibly followed by much misunderstanding.. judgement and criticism. Furtermore you should bear in mind that the messenger is called to give the message exactly as it is given whether from Jesus or Mary. The accusation that it is MDM giving her own message is clearly coming from someone who has never had this
    awesome responsibllity .I call on all who have found themselves doing this to humbly desist whether clergy or lay person and wait in a spirit of prayer because what is from God will come to pass and if it is not it will not . Trust THE HOLY SPIRIT. Yours in the peace of Christ .Mairead

    • Fink

      There`s no need for anyone to “wait in a spirit of prayer”, because these “messages” are full of error: the literal millenium (condemned by the Church), Our Lord`s references to us as His children (He`s actually our Kinsman Redeemer eldest Brother), failed predictions, threats against those of us who reject this stuff…etc, etc, etc.
      Heaven doesn`t utter threats in this manner. Ignoring all of the other problems, they`re the only proof that`s needed to show that MDM`s “messages” are not from God.

      • w

        both and…

        in more than one place Jesus Christ is–father

        +<3–learn your bible, please?

      • Fink

        To W:
        “both and…”
        Too late.
        i`d already found out.

        “…learn your bible, please?”
        As you live in a glass house, maybe you should do the same. At least i know that Mary Carberry`s messages are NOT from Heaven: PROOF!
        Your strange layouts…

        What`s your purpose of turning up here?

    • PocketSketch

      Mairead, While I understand your point and the sympathy you feel for Mary Carberry and her family, you are mistaken. She has not been chosen by God to preach against the anointed servant of the Lord, Pope Francis. I would encourage you to read these passages of Sacred Scripture and reflect on the gravity of her accusations. Exodus 24:7, Leviticus 8:12, 1Samuel 9:16, 1Sam.10:1, 1Sam16:1, 1Sam.16:12-13; 1 Kings1:39, 1Kgs.19:16; Acts4:26-27; Isaiah11:2, Isa.61:1; Zechariah 6:13; Luke 4:16-21.

      Mary Carberry’s writings have been repeatedly reprobated by the Holy Spirit who leads, protects and guides the Holy Catholic Church through the legitimate and anointed successors to the apostles. MDM has no authority to speak in God’s name. Therefore, by refusing obedience to God’s anointed, she obeys the spirits of rebellion and she suffers because she is subject to them. It is not Our Lord she obeys but the prince of darkness who manipulates her. Until and unless she repents and converts we shall not be silent. We defend our Holy Father, our faith and our families. We will not stand by idle and silent while the family of God is picked off and devoured by wolves who come dressed in sheep’s clothing. The truth has been revealed; the deceit of Satan has been shouted from the rooftops. It is time for all the faithful to take heed of these warnings: MDM has been deceived and she deceives.

      “The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because He has appointed me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim release to the captives and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty those who are oppressed.” Luke 4:16

  31. aquiness

    Meanwhile he is slandered and hated by many…Very Christian!

  32. Stephen

    Has no one read St Francis Prophecy of the Destroyer Pastor (notice the omission of the word Pope)? If you have, how can you doubt the authenticity of such a word from such a great saint? Is it not ” ironic” that this prophecy comes to us from the very saint whose name is now used by the False Prophet?
    Are not all the prophecies of Sacred Scripture, La Salette, and others regarding the Apostasy coming true before your eyes?
    You have ears to hear but you hear not.
    Prove to us that not having a reigning pope equates to the gates of Hell having prevailed . By all that is true and holy
    the gates of Hell shall NOT prevail against the Church whether a Destroyer pretends to the seat of Peter or not. The Church has had many interegnums . This one just happens to occur at the end.
    Certainly, we must agree that if the last conclave was valid, we would have a valid pope. But St Francis said that he would be “un-canonically elected”.
    The smart Catholic should humble himself and pray to the Lord to come out on the right side of the imminent schism.

    • Fink

      The alleged Prophecy of Saint Francis is most likely a fake made up by one of the breakaway heretical “Franciscan” sects which were excommunicated by Boniface VIII.

      The La Salette predictions were added by Melanie decades after Our Lady`s appearance, and are believed to have been made up (by Melanie) to make the phenomenon look more dramatic

      The alleged Prophecy of Saint Malachy is almost certainly a forgery dating from 1590.

      Again: how can all of you followers of MDM keep it up when her “messages” are riddled with heresy and failed predictions???!!!
      “There are none so blind…”!!!
      Pocketsketch`s conviction that the whole thing comes from hell is probably spot on.

      • Stephen

        For those who do not believe, no argument is sufficient – – for those who do believe no argument is necessary.

      • ..reductio ad absurdum, absurdum ratio….is the new credo of the schismatic Catholic MDM Fundament Church …

      • Fink

        To Stephen:
        In the context of Mary Carberry, with the overwhelming weight of evidence against her, those words are meaningless. Anyway, i`ve seen those words trotted out in support of other on-the-nose phenomena.
        A red herring.

      • Stephen

        Where is your proof that St. Francis Prophecy is a fake? I say hearsay.
        La Salette is an approved prophecy.
        St. Malachy’s Prophecy being fake ? Another lie from the Deceiver who loves it when true messages from heaven are scorned.
        The fact that MDM is so scorned and reviled is telling. If Maria”s message is not from God why don’t you just take Gamaliel”s advice and ignore her and she’ll fade away.
        Look, if you want to dismiss MDM that’s your choice. But to dismiss so many other sources seems to me unwise.

      • aquiness

        Hi Stephen,

        You posted….”Where is your proof that St. Francis Prophecy is a fake?”

        Some say it’s a fake and some say it wasn’t meant for our time. But anyway if it was meant for our time then you have to pay attention to the words

        “THE “DECEIVER” WILL NOT BE “CANONICALLY ELECTED”

        Not a valid pope, therefore the claims that Pope Francis is the destroyer are wrong because he is a VALIDLY ELECTED POPE, and even Mary Carberry has admitted this in her writings.

        Pope Benedict…..“I have come to the certainty that my strengths, due to an advanced age, are no longer suited to an adequate exercise of the Petrine ministry. I am well aware that this ministry, due to its essential spiritual nature, must be carried out not only with words and deeds, but no less with prayer and suffering.

        However, in today’s world, subject to so many rapid changes and shaken by questions of deep relevance for the life of faith, in order to govern the barque of Saint Peter and proclaim the Gospel, both strength of mind and body are necessary, strength which in the last few months, has deteriorated in me to the extent that I have had to recognize my incapacity to adequately fulfill the ministry entrusted to me.

        For this reason, and well aware of the seriousness of this act, with full freedom I declare that I renounce the ministry of Bishop of Rome, Successor of Saint Peter. ”

        Are we to believe that he lied?….” With full freedom I declare that I renounce the ministry of Bishop of Rome, Successor of Saint Peter.”

        HH Benedict pledged his “respect and obedience” to Francis.

        I will never believe Benedict is a liar and a coward Stephen!

        You posted….”The fact that MDM is so scorned and reviled is telling. ”

        We could say the same about Pope Francis….why does Satan hate this Pope more than any other? Genuine seers messages can answer this question.

        “God has given us a sign for our current times, with Emeritus Pope Benedict XVI and Pope Francis: the Emeritus Pope prays in silence, in humility and worship for the Pope who must speak to the world and take action. Thereby, we must come together and pray a lot for the Church. Satan today creates confusion in many countries and he also wants the confusion to invade the Vatican. He wants above all to destroy the Church and thus attack the center of the Church, by removing the Pope and the Vatican. But the Virgin Mary intervenes to protect the Church, and that is why She appears in different places in the entire world. ”
        http://www.miraclehunter.com/marian_apparitions/approved_apparitions/itapiranga/index.html

    • aquiness

      “notice the omission of the word Pope” Precisely Stephen. Even Mary Carberry says the Pope was elected by the Cardinals.

      • Stephen

        Of course he was elected by Cardinals. Is that the issue?
        St. Francis prophesied an “un-canonical” election, like when anti-popes are normally not canonically elected by Cardinals.
        Would God allow this? Sacred Scripture tells us that the Apostasy takes place when the restrainer is removed : the Petrine Keys.

    • …you seem to have the naked intention to love God..however your intention is not guided by the knowledge of how God is in himself…when you weigh what is being said about God through MDM and how God actually is then one sees obvious problems…I suggest you educate yourself on the nature of God…there is a good book called the summa theologica by Thomas aquinas as well u can read questione disputatae de potentia dei also by Thomas aquinas…then u will come to notice the obvious errors in the messages…know God first then use that reflection of God as a mirror for your own disputations…anyway take care…

  33. Stephen

    Was it “moderation” or “modernization”? As Francis is a modernist (the synthesis of all heresies) I expect the latter. Lord have mercy on all of us.

  34. …to have an antipope u need an anti-conclave of cardinals…or a cadre of rebellious prelates…now at this time we do have an anti-pope…the pope of the palmarian catholic church…canon 5 council of trent on the sacrament of order as well see catechism 1128 ex opere operato…if u acknowledge the current Church then u recognize by default the current pope…there can be no dialtheism….either you are in the room or not while still standing in the doorway.. to say the death of Christ is efficacious yet at the same time not is a paradox…your ditheistic subordinationist view of Christ not having the power to commission an endless succession of apostles is at best a quaint and eccentric departure from reality…but hey its your soul don’t say you weren’t warned out of charity…. :i)

  35. PocketSketch

    Fr. Duffy said, “Our Faith is in . . . the Promise of the Kingdom of Heaven.” We would like to hear more about this promise and how you define the kingdom of heaven. Somehow, the promises made by the woman who professes to speak with the authority of God don’t fit with the promises Our Lord made in Sacred Scripture. Witness this description by Carberry which is quite extraordinary really:

    “The Gift of a life filled with great glory, wonderful surroundings, a perfect, beautiful body and the ability to feel a permanent love, which will overwhelm you, but will bring you immense happiness. This is Eternal Life and the time for Me to bring you over into My New Kingdom on Earth is close.” MDM, Sept. 24, 2013

    If the Second Coming of the Lord is not the end of the world and hence Judgement Day how is it she is promising glorified, resurrected bodies in a setting which is the description of heaven on earth? After all, MDM swears it is not the end of the world she preaches and her disciples make identical claims.

    • Stephen

      The book of revelation teaches two resurrections . One at His Second Coming a few years from now and one at the end of the Fiat of the Holy Spirit called the second death. Heaven and Earth unite after the Purification.

      • Fink

        The First Resurrection is NOT a bodily resurrection of the just at the beginning of a literal 1.000 year period. It means Baptism. The Second Resurrection is the General Resurrection at Our Lord`s Second Coming at the end of Time.

        [The First Resurrection has also been interpreted as the deaths of the martyrs…but…]

        There`s no such thing as a “Eucharistic Reign”, the “KINGDOM OF THE DIVINE WILL”, as taught by the misguided propagandisers of the Divine Will movement [Louisa Piccarreta (if genuine) must be turning over in her grave.] or any other type of millenium.
        The Millenium is FALSE! FULL STOP!
        The Church DOES condemn that belief, whether you like it or dislike it.
        Are you determined to continue to consume poison and defy the Church?

        The Second Death means HELL.

        You`re being led along by the nose!
        You`re flogging dead horses!
        And still badmouthing Francis!

      • PocketSketch

        “Heaven and Earth unite after the Purification.” said Stephen. The glory of God’s kingdom has already been inaugurated here on earth. By His death and Resurrection Jesus has opened up heaven to us. The Holy Spirit by His transforming power makes the mystery of Christ present here and now.

      • PocketSketch

        “Let us stand well, let us stand with fear; let us be attentive to offer in peace the Holy oblation.” Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom

        “Come, let us worship and fall down before Christ.” (St. John Chrysostom)

        “Every Sunday The Church acts out St. John’s experience in chapter 4 of Revelation at the Sursum Corda of the Mass, when the priest, reflecting Christ’s call “Come Up!” calls out to the assembly “Come, let us lift up our hearts!” And the assembly [congregation] replies in unison, as one voice, ‘We have lifted them (up) to the Lord!’

        St Germanus, Bishop of Paris d. 576AD, must have been thinking of this moment when he wrote: “The Church is an earthly heaven. The souls of Christians are called together to assemble with the prophets, apostles, and hierarchs in order to recline with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob at the mystical banquet of the Kingdom of Christ. Thereby having come into the unity of faith and communion of the Spirit through the dispensation of the One who died for us and is sitting at the right hand of the Father, we are no longer on earth but standing by the royal Throne of God in heaven, where Christ is, just as He Himself says: ‘Righteous Father, sanctify in Your name those whom You gave me, so that where I am, they may be with Me.'” (See Jn.17:11, 24.) (Source: Agape Bible Study)

    • you do not understand–scripture<+3

  36. Stephen

    While focussing on the alleged heresies of MDM and the so-called evidence discrediting her person it appears we have lost sight of the very real heresies of Kasper and Francis. Imagine, if you can, Pope Benedict XVI phoning up a women living as an illicit marriage and telling her it’s okay to receive Holy Communion! Prove to me that a real pope who knows the Church teaching on this could do such a thing without malice. Please, MDM’ers are not the schismatics. Our Lady at Akita warned that cardinal would be against cardinal. Cardinal Ciappi warned that the Apostasy would start “at the top”.
    These dots just seem to me much more connectable than the ones above.
    .

    • Doccus

      As an aside , and nothing whatsoever to do with MDM, it does *iindeed* look like “cardinal against cardinal” etc.
      Has nobody grasped the utter offensiveness of Cardinals and/or Bishops secretly spying on, and recording, and then PUBLISHING, the Pope’s private calls? Irrespective of what he may have said, this is a violation of the very highest order, and utterly unprecedented in history!
      For this to have been attempted in the Vatican.. is shocking…

    • aquiness

      Hi Stephen,

      The Pope said the following last July, so I hardly think he’s changed his mind on this issue

      He criticized the “gnostic solution” of elite groups of “enlightened Catholics” who offer a “higher spirituality.” He said some advocates of ordaining nuns to the priesthood or of giving communion to the divorced and remarried fall into this error.

      • Stephen

        Thanks for your comment aquiness. Here’s the problem though. He says one thing one day and the opposite another time. This is what some politicians do to curry favour from different constituencies. Anyway, only time will out him if he truly is who I believe him to be. If he comes out denying clear doctrines of the Church I have no doubt about anyone on this site going rogue on sound doctrine.
        .

      • aquiness

        “Anyway, only time will out him if he truly is who I believe him to be. ”

        You see it’s all guesswork Stephen, and your soul is in grave danger!

    • aquiness

      “Pope Benedict XVI phoning up a women living as an illicit marriage and telling her it’s okay to receive Holy Communion”

      In July 2013 Pope Francis…” criticized the “gnostic solution” of elite groups of “enlightened Catholics” who offer a “higher spirituality.” He said some advocates of ordaining nuns to the priesthood or of giving communion to the divorced and remarried fall into this error.”

      I doubt then he has changed his mind on this Stephen. 🙂

      I would also like to ask the followers why there was not one word from MDM about Divine Mercy Sunday or the two canonisations.

      Don’t you think this is just a little bit strange that these great events were not mentioned?

      • Stephen

        Not if the canonizations were invalid. Is God telling us this by His silence?
        All I know is JXXIII started the mess in the Church and JP2 and BVI did there best to oppose the Illuminati infiltration and fix the mess. Maybe religion and post-VII politics don’t mix as well in Heaven as in Rome.

      • aquiness

        “Not if the canonizations were invalid. Is God telling us this by His silence?”

        God isn’t silent anywhere else Stephen, only with MDM. Obviously the entity doesn’t like this. And we know why!

        If you need private revelations why don’t you check out new approved apparitions instead of false ones?

        http://www.miraclehunter.com/marian_apparitions/approved_apparitions/itapiranga/index.html

        “God has given us a sign for our current times, with Emeritus Pope Benedict XVI and Pope Francis: the Emeritus Pope prays in silence, in humility and worship for the Pope who must speak to the world and take action. Thereby, we must come together and pray a lot for the Church. Satan today creates confusion in many countries and he also wants the confusion to invade the Vatican. He wants above all to destroy the Church and thus attack the center of the Church, by removing the Pope and the Vatican. But the Virgin Mary intervenes to protect the Church, and that is why She appears in different places in the entire world. “​

      • Stephen

        Sorry that would be BXVI.

      • ..@stephen…another major problem with the MDM website is that it mentions Jesus granting Plenary indulgences…now to anyone trained in the Catholic Faith this is obviously incorrect and inconsistent with God’s word where he passes the keys to Peter…so again we have MDM purveying a message where Jesus contradicts his own Gospel…since granting Indulgences is a function of the jurisdiction of the KEYS….and so only the Pope or a Bishop within his capacity is allowed to grant an indulgence….Jesus gives humanity his plenary sacrifice which is sufficient for salvation…in this regard the permission to grant indulgence is not necessary but is allowed due to God’s magnanimity or his generosity….and the indulgence itself draws from the infinite merit of Christ as well as the communion of the saints ie the treasury of the Church and so is a function of the Church..so whoever is leader of the Church is able to grant indulgences…any action of Jesus is always necessary efficacious and sufficient..so by saying Jesus is granting indulgences is a bit like saying Christ’s passion was insufficient since he must grant indulgence on top of what is necessary for him to do….anyway i would avoid MDM like poison if i were you… this is only one problem among others

      • Fink

        To Stephen:

        “All I know is JXX!!! started the mess in the Church…”
        The belief that the pre-Vatican II Church was basking in a Golden Age is a myth. i`m old enough to remember that period, and it`s false to blame Pope John for what happened from the 1960s onwards. The heretics/subversives were waiting for pounce, and they deliberately (that`s my conviction) misinterpreted the desires of V!!. Anyway, the Church had to have a bomb placed under It.

        Be careful of what your supposedly-well-informed Catholic friends tell you.

  37. Stephen

    ” I saw also the relationship between TWO POPES…I saw how baleful would be the consequences of this FALSE CHURCH. I saw it increase in size; HERETICS of every kind CAME INTO THE CITY OF ROME…a concession was demanded from the clergy…It was as if the people were splitting into TWO CAMPS.
    ( Bl Anne Catherine Emmerich)
    Mother of Salvation
    Pray for us.

    • aquiness

      ” I saw also the relationship between TWO POPES. Yes I see a good relationship with Benedict and Francis. 🙂

      “I saw how baleful would be the consequences of this FALSE CHURCH.” Sad to say this is Mary Carberry’s new church, complete with the book of truth scripture…I wonder who will be pope?

      • Fink

        To Aquiness:
        “I wonder who will be pope?”
        William Kamm: ie Pope Peter II or
        Pope Pebble I
        He`s almost at the chequered flag.

      • Stephen

        To answer your question: St. Peter.
        I’m not sure how MDM can be the source of all the tribulations prophesied. I re-iterate that the Apostasy starts in Rome. not Dublin.
        By the way, I apologize to Pope John XXIII and to all of you for rashly stating that he started the “mess” . I do not see how he could have seen the coming turmoil in the Church.

      • Elizabeth

        Stephen,
        You are a clear thinker. You’ve read the messages correctly, and you
        are a gentleman with your critics. I am praying and waiting as you are.
        God bless you and all who are concerned for Holy Mother Church no
        matter which conclusion you have come to based on your heartfelt
        opinion. This is tough, but God is in charge and will have the last Word.

  38. Doccus

    To all those claiming Pope Francis as the “False Prophet”..
    Better check your scripture.. The false prophet is “And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is OF THE SEVEN (my emphasis added), and goeth into perdition”
    This means that the false prophet has to be one of the seven popes, who is no longer Pope “was, and is not” and “Must continue for a short space” Obviously not Francis, but Benedict who mirculously gets well..Go figure!
    Now you can take it or leave it, believe scripture or not that Benedict is the false prophet.. I choose to take it at face value, although I have no idea why it would say what it does..with a grain of salt iunless Benedict suddenly becomes capablle of doing cartwheels..
    The important thing here, is that MDM does not KNOW her own Bible, otherwise she would know Francis CAN NOT BE the false prophet, or perhaps Satan does not, or worse, he DOES, because MDM’s messages call Benedict “Beloved”..
    At MOST, Pope Francis is being used as a decoy to keep eyes off Benedict.. for all intents and purposes he (Pope Francis) appears very pious.. and has not formally come out with any “heresies”.
    That phone call to the divorced Catholic should raise a red flag that it was bugged.. by SOMEONE “listening in” to the Pope,, and then blurting it to all the media.
    You can take or leave the conclusions here as you will, but the important thing her is that it seems a false interpretation of the vision of Saint Malachy was used , overriding the scripture of St John, to imply Francis as the false Pope. No legitimate apparition would make that mistake.
    * thanks to Steve Sperling for the original interpretation of this passage*

  39. Stephen

    Excerpt from today’s posting on Maria’s website. Seems appropriate after reading the responses today:
    “Naturally, this Mission is despised by Satan and he will use, EVEN GOOD SOULS [ emphasis mine] – who out of a sense of misguided loyalty to those sacred servants of Mine, who have lost the faith and do not truly serve Me, because they no longer know how – will slam My Holy Word…like those who… rejected Me, when I walked the face of the Earth.”

    And, yes, there will be a Warning as stated clearly by our Lord to St. Faustina in her diary.

    • Fink

      To Stephen:
      “Naturally, this Mission is despised by Satan…”
      Those words prove nothing. Their value as a foundation on which to base an argument is zero. The false mystic John Leary (Rochester, New York) said exactly the same thing; and no doubt, a lot of other false visionaries/mystics/locutionists have, as well.

      The human soul is the seat of the intellect and the will. To suppress the intellect, allowing the will to run amok, is to cripple the soul. Your arguments aren`t based on reason. That`s obvious by the fact that, in spite of all of the lies/heresies/etc, you remain determined to believe the outpourings of Mary Carberry. It just does not make sense!!! The sooner you and all of the other followers of MDM come to your senses and revive your God-given intellects, the better, for your own sakes. And for the wellbeing of the Church. Take note: do you want to be part of a split-off heretic cult?

      Leaving the “goodness” or “badness” of Pope Francis out of it, the truth is that you`re only too willingly consuming the poisonous utterances of this deluded woman whose ignorance of (among other things) Scripture and the role of the Church is being exploited by a malignant intellect many times as powerful as ours.

      Don`t fall for the claim that Satan wouldn’t urge us to pray the Rosary, become more frequent Mass-goers, attend Eucharistic Adoration etc. When it suits him, he does all of the above, deceiving the most pious (“…to deceive, if possible, even the elect.”), the gullible pious ones. He sows error in with the good stuff.

      • Fr. Duffy fighting 69th

        Satan would NEVER encourage people to attend Mass, Eucharistic Adoration or pray the Rosary. It is pure folly to suggest such a thing. The issue here is not Mary Carberry, although you and your fellow rebukers want the focus to be on her. The real issue if Francis, even though you want to leave him “out of it”. Catholics of free-will are going to observe Francis and any of the changes he makes to Catholic Doctrine. ANY changes to PRESENT Catholic doctrine are anathema, and heresy. That is the issue. And only time will reveal what Francis’ intention are in this area. And all the threats and brow-beating you and your fellow rebukers engage in are moot, and merely indicate that you are operating out of fear and judgement.

      • aquiness

        Hi Rafael..you posted….Satan would NEVER encourage people to attend Mass, Eucharistic Adoration or pray the Rosary. It is pure folly to suggest such a thing.”

        I have posted in here that Satan does ‘put up’ with these devotions, if in the end he can achieve his goal. Read the following from a false seer who warned that Pope Benedict was the false prophet:

        “I have told you that Saint Joseph with the Apostles and Disciples of My Most Holy Mother shall begin and maintain the True Catholic Faith within the Remnant Church because of the schism the Anti-Pope shall foster, due to his heresies. Saint Joseph has gathered people together to pray. He will continue to assist all of you who wish to be faithful to the Dogma and Traditions of the Holy Roman Catholic Church and Faith to join together, to have the Sacraments, and Priestly counsel from Holy, Marian, Priests. That is why I have asked and asked you to seek out Holy Priests who would serve the True Church in the days before and after the Warning, and on to the three days of darkness.

        · I have told you to make your homes holy, to pray each day together in your homes.
        · I have asked you to obtain images of the Immaculate Heart of Mary and the Sacred Heart of Jesus for each room.
        · I have asked you to put crucifixes and Saint Benedict medals on all windows and doors.
        · I have asked you to obtain and keep blessed candles for light and warmth.

        · I have asked you to obtain images of the Saints, Angels and maintain your homes free of evil by the frequent use of Holy water sprinkled throughout your homes.
        · I have asked you to keep extra Rosaries and prayer books on hand.”

        Satan is just crying wolf again Rafael

        ———————————————–

        You posted…”And only time will reveal what Francis’ intention are in this area…”

        Meanwhile you believe you are free to slander this man on…GUESSWORK!

      • PocketSketch

        “If only people knew the Truth of life after death. AFTER THE SOUL LEAVES THE BODY, WHETHER IT IS IN A STATE OF GRACE or not, SATAN TORMENTS THROUGH THE POWER of SEDUCTION. HE TRIES, EVEN THEN, TO DRAW SOULS TO HIM.” Mary Carberry, Sept. 26, 2012 (message #565, “Sin Can Be Forgiven When You Are Alive, Not After Death”)

        If the fans of MDM believe this is truly God speaking to them, then they have to believe everything she writes, including the terrible revelation that Satan still has the power to seduce souls after death. I have tried to share this with the faithful; they can find no explanation for the above message other than the accusation that I lied or found it on the wrong website. Even after I have politely offered to point this teaching out for them, from their own copies of the “Book of Truth,” they refuse.

        I ask you, “Who is afraid of the truth?”

      • Fr. Duffy fighting 69th

        Pocketsketch. Satan “torments” and “tries” to seduce souls after death. It clearly does not state Satan succeeds in that effort when directed at saved souls. Try focusing on Francis and not Mary Carberry. Try focusing on the Synod in October, and any developments that emerge. Try focusing on the crazy and heretical statements of Francis in relation to salvation for atheists, homosexuality and the priesthood, the nature of the Blessed Mother, the redistribution of wealth and on and on… Stop your pharisaical persecution of catholics who exercise free-will in their observation of the serious doctrinal issues presented by Francis’ statements. Statements you either choose to ignore, or are in agreement with, which then places YOUR soul in jeopardy.

      • aquiness

        Try focusing on the crazy and heretical statements of Francis in relation to salvation for atheists, homosexuality

        If you did some research before you posted you wouldn’t need to send us the same old posts that we have refuted time after time.

        Pope Francis regarding homosexuality….“At the present time there are those who, basing themselves on observations in the psychological order, have begun to judge indulgently, and even to excuse completely, homosexual relations between certain people. This they do in opposition to the constant teaching of the Magisterium and to the moral sense of the Christian people.”

        Pope Francis did not say athiests were saved he was telling us that we have all been redeemed. You should know the difference! Anyway even though the pope was not saying that…. it is true that athiests can be saved.

        St. Paul tells us that a person’s conscience will accuse or defend them at their judgement…. “The gentiles who do not have the law, do by nature the things of the law. They show the work of the law written on their hearts.” Romans 2:14-16 He is telling us that those who have not known God yet have lived according to the law of God can be saved!

        Early Church Father, St Justin Martyr explains this further..If a man accepted that law, even though he doesn’t know that it’s God that writes it, he is in effect following the Spirit of Christ. God’s Mercy is unfathonable!

        You would do better checking out the errors of your false seer Mary Carberry…you are being led on a right old merry dance by Satan!

      • Stephen

        Fink. Thank you for your comments.
        Satan sows substantial error in with the proud intellectual ones, too. Beware the leaven of the Pharisees in the Church today. I imagine that when Jesus told the Pharisees that they were of their father the Devil, the ones who weren’t ready to toss Him off a cliff, laughed out loud. Jesus didn’t want or need to win a theological debate with His enemies. His authority as the Word of God (” In the beginning was the Word…” ) made Him the default winner of any argument even if the intellectuals were too spiritually blind to see it.
        The words ” … this Mission is despised by Satan” means nothing to you because you cannot accept them as spoken by Jesus.
        As for this constant assertion that these messages are heretical , I will at this time explain why I know that the Millennium is a future reality and NOT against the teachings of the Church. The Church clearly rejects the millenarianism proposed by a manmade idea of human progress towards a utopia. Examples are Communism, the Third Reich, and the present stupidity called The New World Order ( which is nothing but a synthesis of all the worst tyrannies devised by sinful man). This is quite different from the thousand year period prophesied by St. John in the Apocalypse. The Catechism of the Catholic Church clearly shows this without committing to interpreting the future at the end of this age.

      • Stephen

        Thank you Fr. Duffy. Some clear reasoning at last.
        A kingdom divided against itself cannot stand. If Satan is encouraging people to pious soul- saving practices like the Holy Rosary, Holy Mass, The Chaplet of Divine Mercy and more, St. Michael’s job just got a lot easier.

      • Fr. Duffy fighting 69th

        Aquiness. You quote some unknown, condemned seer? Why? It does not address the point that a house divided against itself will not stand. Satan would NEVER encourage pious devotion in any form. And you accuse whom of slandering Francis? Me? I stand by my comments related to Francis’ heretical statements, and my contention that if he is the False Prophet, he will reveal himself. As an attorney I can assure you that neither rises to the level of slander, in Law or in Fact. By he way, Truth is a defense against slander or libel.

      • aquiness

        The false seer is Mary Jane Even, she warned P Benedict was the deceiver.

        You posted….Satan would NEVER encourage pious devotion in any form.”

        But he does and I have just proven it to you!

        You posted…. “As an attorney I can assure you that neither rises to the level of slander, in Law or in Fact. ”

        If you really are an attorney you would know that you have committed the crime of libel and slander – the most obvious types of defamatory statements are written or spoken words. So you are guilty of this crime.

        Meaning of Defamation…when a person causes another to be exposed to hatred, ridicule or contempt.

        Here are Mary Carberry’s hatefilled remarks

        Arn’t you lucky that the Catholic Church doesn’t sue!

        MDM “The cunning imposter, who has lain in waiting in the wings, patiently, will soon declare his reign over My poor unsuspecting sacred servants.”

        “He has carefully manipulated his position and soon his pompous demeanor will be seen amidst his splendid court. His pride, arrogance and self-obsession will be carefully hidden from the world in the beginning. To the outside world, a sigh of relief will be heard as the trumpets peal out to announce his term as head of My Church. ”

        “His loyalty is to the beast and how he will laugh and sneer at My sacred servants who will support him. He who dares to sit in My Temple, and who has been sent by the evil one, cannot speak the truth, for he does not come from Me. He has been sent to dismantle My Church and tear it up into little pieces before he will spit it out from his vile mouth.” March 8th 2013

        The followers of MDM know that Pope Francis has not changed the teachings of the Church, yet in their eyes he is guilty of a crime he hasn’t yet committed – if we search throughout scripture we will not find one place where God condemns someone while they are still innocent – not that we believe for one moment that he will ever do anything to harm the Church.

        MDM “I have told you, My followers, how you will be deceived. This will be very difficult for you because you will question this imposter who sits in My Father’s House.” March 13th

        Some comments from the faithful followers of MDM….
        “I would like to up slap the back of frankie’s head here and knock that white cap off the top of his head…and then ask him “What are you thinking???” I mean it’s not like he’s the pope or something….”

        Some followers are actually praying for the death of Pope Francis.

        Follower…”Dear Lord, thank you for protecting us and for exposing anti-Pope Francis for who he really is; an emissary from hell. ‘Keep us safe from him, make his days few and his life short, for the sake of thine elect. Amen.’

        A follower speaking of the Pope and Cardinals…”I’d like to kick their a**** out of the Vatican”

      • Fr. Duffy fighting 69th

        Aquiness. I refuse to be put in the position of defending inappropriate comments by Francis detractors, whether real or imagined. Nor will I be lectured about the meaning of libel and slander by someone without a legal education, or legal experience. But I will say this, Francis will either reveal himself to be the False Prophet, or he won’t. And the line of embarkation is simply this – the current catholic social teachings on sexuality, the current Doctrines on matters of Faith, and the disposition of the Sacraments, are immutable. If Francis changes ANYTHING he is anathema. Period. If he doesn’t, I will accent to your way of thinking, and publicly join the ranks of the Francis lovers. Let us give it 12 months and see what develops. Meanwhile, I suggest you examine your demeanor and language when referring to Maria Divine Mercy, because you are exhibiting a profound lack of charity and christian love. You are instructed by Jesus Christ to love everyone, to treat everyone with human respect, no matter what you believe about her mission or locutions. It simply is not becoming of a Roman Catholic woman to express herself in that manner.

      • aquiness

        Duffy you posted…” I refuse to be put in the position of defending inappropriate comments by Francis detractors, whether real or imagined.”

        Well I certainly hope you wouldn’t defend them. They were disgusting comments!

        You posted…” Nor will I be lectured about the meaning of libel and slander by someone without a legal education, or legal experience.”

        I don’t need a law degree to know that defamatory statements have been made. Or are you trying to deny it now?

        You posted….” But I will say this, Francis will either reveal himself to be the False Prophet, or he won’t.”

        Yes all guesswork! 😦

        You posted…”.. Meanwhile, I suggest you examine your demeanor and language when referring to Maria Divine Mercy, because you are exhibiting a profound lack of charity and christian love. You are instructed by Jesus Christ to love everyone, to treat everyone with human respect, no matter what you believe about her mission or locutions. It simply is not becoming of a Roman Catholic woman to express herself in that manner.”

        First of all I think you are in no position to tell anyone that they show a lack of love and charity when you speak calumny of Pope Francis, who as a true Vicar of Christ deserves your loyalty and respect. And secondly I actually feel sorry for Mary Carberry because she is being deceived, as you all are. She desperately needs prayers of deliverance.

      • john konnor

        @ duffy..”satan would never encourage pious devotion”????…treally???this is a faulty generalization..since satan has indeed used pious devotion such as with the palmarian catholic church to produce a schismatic catholic church with a false anti-pope…through a false visionary he promoted adoration prayer of the rosary and the partaking in illicit sacraments as well the appointment of invalid and illict bishops…you need to do more detective work instead of using arguments from ignorance to bolster your claims….absence of evidence is never evidence of absence…”For the totality of facts determines what is the case, and also whatever is not the case.”..&..”The world is the totality of facts, not of things made up of the world “-tractatus logico-philosophicus….you need to get the facts before you make a case….Da Mihi Factum, Dabo tibi Ius…the remnant army has lost the battle ..like the french at agincourt they are stuck in the mud

      • Fr. Duffy fighting 69th

        Aquiness. It seems you like nothing more than a stimulating debate. However, all this back and forth is moot. Let us see what Francis does in the next 12 months. His actions will be the is the final arbiter.

      • aquiness

        Duffy you posted…”It seems you like nothing more than a stimulating debate. However, all this back and forth is moot.

        Let us see what Francis does in the next 12 months. His actions will be the is the final arbiter.”

        How can malicious slander be spread about any person when they have done the crime yet? Can you not see what is wrong with this kind of thinking?

        All I want to see is you turning back to your Church with a love for the Vicar of Christ.

      • Fr. Duffy fighting 69th

        John Konnor. Save your Latin for your legalistic brothers. The French lost at Agincourt not because of the mud, but because they were prisoners of old thinking, stale protocols, and tired hierarchies. Oh, and terrible leadership. Sound familiar? You, pocketsketch, aquiness and the other Francis apologists are great at twisting facts, and formulating slick arguments. I recognize it from my lawyering days. Back then I would have loved to get it on with you. Even in Latin, as I have a background in Canon Law, as well as a number of other areas. However, this issue of Francis, and the future of our beloved Catholic Faith, is too important to bandy words back and forth. The one salient point is, do we have a leader who is of God. Serving God. Protecting God’s people. Maintaining God’s laws as expressed by the immutable doctrines of the Roman Catholic Church. And one that embraces the Pillars of our Faith – The Divinity of Jesus Christ, the True Presence, the Holy Trinity, the Sacraments, the Blessed Mother and the Communion of Saints. If he does not change any of these Pillars, then I will gladly kneel and kiss his ring. If he changes or attacks even one of those Pillars, I will fight him savagely until my last breath, happily dying a martyr’s death before I would ever acquiesce to a heresy.

      • aquiness

        Hi Duffy…”I have a background in Canon Law, as well as a number of other areas. ”

        Then you should recognise the following….

        ERROR….. MDM March 18th, 2011 “Defend these Messages. Respect this Most Holy Scripture.

        There can be no new addition to the listed books of the Bible which constitute the established Canon….but even if more could be added it would not be on the say so of a hidden woman who demands we accept her writings as being on the same level as Holy Scripture…besides it has always been taught that we do NOT have to accept private revelation.

        MDM “You will crawl on your stomachs and scream out for Me. You, who blasphemed against Me, will want to cut out your tongues, for you will realise then how your words have insulted Me. I await this day patiently, but should you stand before Me and prevent Me from reaching out to souls, I will cut you down. Should you continue to blaspheme against Me, by declaring My Messages to be the work of the devil, then you will never be forgiven. For this is the greatest sin against God.” (May 24, 2013,

        The Catechism of the Catholic Church teaches that….” It was by the apostolic Tradition that the Church discerned which writings are to be included in the list of the sacred books. This COMPLETE list is called the canon of Scripture. It includes 46 books for the Old Testament and 27 for the New. CCC 120

        ERROR…..MDM May 7th 2012 “after Pope Benedict, you will be led by me from the heavens” …..July 22nd 2012 “anyone else who claims to sit on the Seat of Peter is an imposter”

        Christ has guaranteed to Peter a perpetual succession in the primacy.

        The First Vatican Council taught …”That which our lord Jesus Christ, the prince of shepherds and great shepherd of the sheep, established in the blessed apostle Peter, for the continual salvation and permanent benefit of the Church, must of necessity remain for ever, by Christ’s authority, in the Church which, founded as it is upon a rock, will stand firm until the end of time [45].

        2. For no one can be in doubt, indeed it was known in every age that the holy and most blessed Peter, prince and head of the apostles, the pillar of faith and the foundation of the Catholic Church, received the keys of the kingdom from our lord Jesus Christ, the savior and redeemer of the human race, and that to this day and for ever he lives and presides and exercises judgment in his successors the bishops of the Holy Roman See, which he founded and consecrated with his blood [46].

        3. Therefore whoever succeeds to the chair of Peter obtains by the institution of Christ himself, the primacy of Peter over the whole Church. So what the truth has ordained stands firm, and blessed Peter perseveres in the rock-like strength he was granted, and does not abandon that guidance of the Church which he once received [47].

        4. For this reason it has always been necessary for every Church–that is to say the faithful throughout the world–to be in agreement with the Roman Church because of its more effective leadership. In consequence of being joined, as members to head, with that see, from which the rights of sacred communion flow to all, they will grow together into the structure of a single body [48].

        5. Therefore, if anyone says that it is not by the institution of Christ the lord himself (that is to say, by divine law) that blessed Peter should have perpetual successors in the primacy over the whole Church; or that the Roman Pontiff is not the successor of blessed Peter in this primacy: let him be anathema.
        First Vatican Council, Dogmatic Constitution on the Catholic Faith [Dei Filius], Preface, n. 2

        Second Vatican Council, Dogmatic Constitution on the Church [Lumen Gentium],
        The Roman Pontiff, as the successor of Peter, is the perpetual and visible principle and foundation of unity of both the bishops and of the faithful.
        Second Vatican Council, Dogmatic Constitution on the Church [Lumen Gentium], n. 22

      • PocketSketch

        Yet again, Fr. Duffy has come to the defense of his prophet who offers to the world this startling new revelation from Our Lord that “Satan “torments”and “tries”to seduce souls after death . . . ”

        Regardless, of whether or not Satan succeeds in seducing souls after death, or simply fails in trying, he has no power either to “torment”or attempt to “seduce” anyone who dies “in a state of grace.” If you are prepared to defend that message, then the onus is on you to demonstrate it is true from an authentic Catholic source.

        As it stands, Carberry’s statement is antithetical to the traditional teaching of life after death. Many Christians, would be shocked and frightened with the very thought that God would allow Satan to continue to torment, torture, tantalize, wound or injure any of the faithful departed. To reiterate, she said Satan tries to draw to himself, even the souls of those who die “in a state of grace.” Outrageous! Nevertheless, be our guest, Fr. Duffy, and “instruct the ignorant.” How is it possible that “SATAN TORMENTS THROUGH THE POWER of SEDUCTION” the souls of the faithful departed?

      • Fr. Duffy fighting 69th

        Oh, and aquiness. No matter how people act, or what they say, a Roman Catholic woman must always maintain decorum, respectability and class. You are expected to met that standard, even if others do not. And how you feel about Mary Carberry, and her defenders, does not give you license to behave in any other manner. That is what I taught my Roman Catholic daughter.

      • aquiness

        .”.Oh, and aquiness. No matter how people act, or what they say, a Roman Catholic woman must always maintain decorum, respectability and class. You are expected to met that standard, even if others do not….. how you feel about Mary Carberry, and her defenders, does not give you license to behave in any other manner. That is what I taught my Roman Catholic daughter.”

        I can feel only a sadness for Mary Carberry and her followers Duffy. I pray for them to have their eyes opened to the truths and not listen to Satan’s lies any more. We’ve presented you with proof that she is a false seer.. even the fact that she remains in hiding speaks volumes. Of course the entity does not want Mary to be examined by the Church.

      • Fr. Duffy fighting 69th

        Satan torments souls in their journey to, and while in the lowest levels of Purgatory until their release.

      • Fink

        To Stephen:
        “… I will at this time explain why I know that the Millenium is a future reality and NOT against the teachings of the Church…human progress towards a utopia…This is quite different from the thousand year period prophesied by St. John in the Apocalypse.”

        The Catechism says:
        “The antichrist deception already begins to take shape in the world every time the claim is made to realise WiTHIN HISTORY that messianic hope which can be realised ONLY BEYOND HISTORY through the eschatological judgement. The Church has rejected EVEN MODIFIED FORMS of this falsification of the kingdom to come under the name of “millenarianism”. [Emphasis added.]
        Presumably, you`re referring to the same passage; but have you misinterpreted it? The Church`s condemnation has nothing to do with any sort of man-made “utopia”.

        Coincidentally, some of the condemned “messages” of the aforementioned John Leary were ones promoting (not man-made) millenarianism.

        If you want to dispute the above, you could start by taking Saint Augustine of Hippo to task.
        The orthodox consensus is that we`re living in the “Millenium” right now, and have been in it since the birth of the Church: ie the word is symbolic of a long time. Somebody: please correct me if that`s wrong…it`s way past midnight, here, and…the rest will have to wait ..time to hit the sack…

      • john konnor

        duffy says “satan torments people in purgatory”…this contradicts the scripture of Luke 16:25-26-25] And Abraham said to him: Son, remember that thou didst receive good things in thy lifetime, and likewise Lazareth evil things, but now he is comforted; and thou art tormented…
        [26] And besides all this, between us and you, there is fixed a great chaos: so that they who would pass from hence to you, cannot, nor from thence come hither……and so the devil has not the power since his nature is deformed by sin he is stuck where he is in hell…aquinas also says the same thing…”I answer that, As after the Judgment day the Divine justice will kindle the fire with which the damned will be punished for ever, even so now the elect are cleansed after this life by the Divine justice alone, and neither by the ministry of the demons whom they have vanquished, nor by the ministry of the angels who would not inflict such tortures on their fellow-citizens”…the demons are VANQUISHED by the elect in Purgatory who are saved but who are undergoing purification..the fires of hell are afflictive and the fires of purgatory are purifying..in either case God is the one who wields the justice never the devil…only by God’s permissive will could this happen and as it mentions in scripture a chasm or a chaos is set between the torments of hell and those who are saved (ie those in heaven or purgatory)…

      • Fr. Duffy fighting 69th

        God the Father is watching each and everyone of us. What we think, what we do and what we say. How we treat each other. If we love, or if we don’t. His omniscient vision into our souls is the determining factor in our salvation. Issues related to MDM, the Catechism of the Roman Catholic Church, the Papacy of Francis, John Konnor’s knowledge of Latin and every other expression of humanity is immaterial without the sanctifying Love of Our Lord Jesus Christ. He is the Gate, He is the Savior, He is the King of Kings. And every head shall bow, and every knee shall bend before Him. And events will proceed according to God’s plan. And each and everyone of us will be placed in the position of either denying Jesus, or declaring Him to be the Son of God. Under the pain of death. And this will happen in our lifetimes.

      • Fink

        Addendum to Stephen:
        “The words ‘…This mission is despised by Satan’ means nothing to you because you cannot accept them as spoken by Jesus.”
        You`re dead right.
        Why can`t i accept them as being from Our Lord? Ignoring all of the other overwhelming evidence: every time “Jesus” opens “His” mouth, “He” says: “My dearly beloved DAUGHTER…”. Since when have we been Jesus` children? To quote Scott Hahn: He is our “Kinsman Redeemer eldest Brother” Who has bought us out of bondage with His own blood. So, a lot of Mary Carberry`s messages contain heresy within the first four words!

        The words “Pharisees” and “proud/pride” have been thrown around here a bit too often., at least by you and “Fr Duffy”. They`re red herrings, and have been used in an attempt to cast a slur on some of us who oppose the position held by both of you. What does knowing the truth about this sulphurous racket have to do with pride and pharisees? It`s the ones who think they know, but, in fact, don`t, who might qualify for those titles.
        “He who knows not, and knows not he knows not…”
        Where`s your sense of smell?

        You and your fellow disciples of MDM think you`re being given a line of communication which bypasses the Church, complete with “updated” interpretaions of certain parts of Scripture (Shades of the Divine Will Movement!). You think the rest of us are too full of pride, because of our supposed knowledge, to accept these rivetting messages from Heaven. So, you imagine you have an advantage over us blind/proud/pharisee types. No. Modern day gnosticism.

        Father Pacwa made a good comment about The Poem of The Man God: “For every hour of reading Valtorta, spend at least 3 [or 4?] hours reading Scripture. If you insist on taking the poison, at least take the antidote.” You orta stop soaking in MDM, the DWM and Heaven knows what other stuff your not-so-good Catholic “friends” may have lured you into, and stay with just the healthy stuff. Leave the sulphuric acid for car batteries.

        Re the Prophecy of Saint Malachy:
        Up until about 1590, the predictions are pretty well spot on.
        After that, they`re all over the place.
        Very suspicious.
        There`s more; but that`s a start.

      • ..regarding the pharisee and pride comments ..those are more aptly called toxicum puteus arguments which aim to taint the testimony by painting a bad picture of a persons character and this is a logically false way of proceeding since even though a person may be proud or whatever have you it does not mean they are incorrect… to expose the interior disposition of others according to john of the cross is more a tactic of the devil..as he states in his ascent of mount carmenl chapter 26..”For at times the devil is accustomed to represent to the soul the sins of others, and evil consciences and evil souls, falsely but very vividly, and all this he does to harm the soul, trusting that it may spread abroad his revelations, and that thus more sins may be committed, for which reason he fills the soul with zeal by making it believe that these revelations are granted it so that it may commend the persons concerned to God”…note the devil does this falsely but very distinctly with a view to separation…and the devil also fills souls with zeal so that such persons believe themselves to be doing a God a favour by mashing up their character…problem with such people is that they have the intention to love God but they dont know enough about the catholic faith to really take the time to learn…a symptom of pride is indolence in spiritual matters ..since such a person believes they know everything and they are the centre and they miss the needs of others this is a symptom of pride…and so they miss the gentle nuances of the faith and beat others to death with the gospel and make catholics look like spiritual tyrants who belong to an exclusive club…honestly God does not need vigilantes like this to protect his kingdom..if one does not have the fruits of the holy spirit …joy, patience, generosity, self control, modesty in word and manner, kindness, charity (sound filial correction) etc…then we can know such a person is not motivated by God…through all the vituperative philippics of the MDM crowd we know right away we are dealing with people who want to love God but are listening to the wrong spirit and so are making quite a mess of the faith and making christians in general look like as saint francis said “funeral christians”.. who walk around in a dour mood seeking to correct everyone and admonish everyone instead of trying to collect them to his heart through diplomacy and joy which is a net of love which cathces souls…God has the Paraclete and his church and all other mechanisms to ensure he gets the job done…..sorry MDM ..”once upon a time you dressed so fine..threw the bums a dime didnt you?…people called said beware doll..your bound fall..you thought they were all kiddin you..?””… but we arent kidding..MDM is all about false charity and false chrisitainity which aims at dividing rather than gathering…her seal of the living God is a masonic symbol the crown and cross…(in hoc signus vinces) ..you can google it you MDM people and see that you are really working against God and not for him…bye

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  41. Stephen

    Fink. The passage from the Catechism is precisely teaching what I said in my last reply. I have no idea how you are seeing it otherwise. By the way St. Augustine’s view ( it is not dogma) is incorrect. Common sense tells us that over 2 000 years have passed without the END. Please don’t reply with the tired old chestnut that it’s not a literal 1 000 years. or that it was only referring to Augustine’s time to the protestant revolt , and so on. All just theological theories not essential to salvation.
    As for Jesus calling Maria his “Dearly beloved daughter” and your assertion that this is a heresy, I have no idea where you are coming from. “If you have seen Me, you have seen the Father. I and the Father are one.” Therefore we are all sons and daughters of Jesus as well as brothers and sisters. Moreover, Jesus is our Great High Priest. Do we not call our priests “Father” and so those in their care are spiritual sons and daughters? As for the Church’s teaching that successors to the Pontiffs will be extant into perpetuity I submit totally to as a faithful Catholic. There is yet alive a Pope who WAS canonically elected, unlike Francis the Destroyer of the Faith. After Pope Emeritus’ martyrdom ( the Bishop in white of the Third Secret- NO not Pope John Paul II – he was NOT killed by soldiers) Saint Peter ( PETRUS ROMANUS ) will reign to oppose the Antichrist as is prophesied by St. Malachy. Please don’t waste your time denouncing to me prophecies that you find disagreeable.
    Finally, there is nothing on this website, either in the above article ( even if the facts are given correctly) or in any e-mail or reply that lends any convincing argument that MDM is a false prophet.
    Also, I would rather be in error ( which I’m not ) about MDM, and suffer egg on my face later ( not Hell to where some have condemned me – as Catholics are free to read private revelation) than to be in error about their truth.

    • aquiness

      Hi Stephen you posted….”… Please don’t reply with the tired old chestnut that it’s not a literal 1 000 years.”

      Of course it isn’t to be taken literally…It just means a long time. Read what Justin Martyr said on the subject

      “…we understand that a period of one thousand years is indicated in symbolic language… A man among us named John, one of Christ’s Apostles, received and foretold that the followers of Christ would dwell in Jerusalem for a thousand years, and that afterwards the universal and, in short, everlasting resurrection and judgment would take place. —St. Justin Martyr, Dialogue with Trypho, The Fathers of the Church, Christian Heritage

      Finally, there is nothing on this website, either in the above article ( even if the facts are given correctly) or in any e-mail or reply that lends any convincing argument that MDM is a false prophet.

      ERROR….. MDM March 18th, 2011 “Defend these Messages. Respect this Most Holy Scripture. The book of truth is Holy Scripture? 😦

      There can be no new addition to the listed books of the Bible which constitute the established Canon.

      The Catechism of the Catholic Church teaches that….” It was by the apostolic Tradition that the Church discerned which writings are to be included in the list of the sacred books. This COMPLETE list is called the canon of Scripture. It includes 46 books for the Old Testament and 27 for the New. CCC 120.

      MDM “You will crawl on your stomachs and scream out for Me. You, who blasphemed against Me, will want to cut out your tongues, for you will realise then how your words have insulted Me. I await this day patiently, but should you stand before Me and prevent Me from reaching out to souls, I will cut you down. Should you continue to blaspheme against Me, by declaring My Messages to be the work of the devil, then you will never be forgiven. For this is the greatest sin against God.” (May 24, 2013

      So even though we do not have to read private revelation…we are going to be beaten up for not believing in mdm’s message. ..according to Mary.

      She’s not a false prophet.. you say? So you want to ignore the fact that she was involved with a medium when she started having visions…You ignore the fact that her God told her Fr Marie Paul was a “good man” and “needed for the mission” when he is in fact a Bishop in the Paedophile order of the Little Pebble.

      You posted….”as Catholics are free to read private revelation) than to be in error about their truth.”

      Stephen…you are not making sense. I have posted just two heresies here connected with Mary. Is that the kind of truth you want?

      God Bless

      • Fink

        John:
        That`s a lot in just one post!
        Sadly, i`ve read none of Saint John of The Cross, apart from his warning about alleged private revelations.
        Equally sadly, philosophy is not a strong point.

        Stephen:
        For a few years, under the name of “Fink” (among other names), i was involved in Catholic Answers Forums. When making a response on any thread, i tried to make sure that whatever i said was on solid ground, and could not be shot down in flames. i`ve tried to do the same, here.

        Regarding the “Fatherhood” of Jesus:
        The Sign of The Cross says:
        “In the Name of the Father
        and of the Son…”
        In His human nature, Our Lord prayed to the Father.
        He said: “…My Father and your Father…”
        He`s not our Father.

        If you understood sacred family bonds (covenants) in ancient times, you`d know that the eldest brother would do whatever he could to purchase back (redeem) younger brothers or sisters who fell into bondage/slavery. That`s exactly what Our Lord did for us: He redeemed us from the bondage/slavery of sin, Satan, death, damnation by giving His own Life for us.
        To requote Scott Hahn: He`s our “Kinsman Redeemer eldest Brother”.
        It`s a FAMILY affair (including a spiritual Mother).
        We have The New Covenant: the new and everlasting Sacred Family Bond.

        About seven years ago, a person who chases after just about every alleged supernatural phenomenom on the face of this earth, said to me:
        “You`re going to have to answer to God for rejecting Medjugorje, Fr Gobbi, the Divine Will Movement, Maria Valtorta…[etc, etc, etc]”
        WRONG!
        She`s a convert who was baptised a Catholic in the mid-1980`s. Unfortunately for her, she fell into the hands of individuals who were into some pretty suspect stuff (including Vassula Ryden and Dozule!!!). She fell for the lot of it. So much for her “good” Catholic “friends”.
        She`s woefully ignorant of the Church`s teachings on just about anything, seeing what she does see through Valtorta-(etc)tinted glasses.
        i suspect you`re in much the same boat.
        To repeat yet again, you`d do yourself a favour by throwing off that corrosive influence, and embracing the guaranteed Truths of the Holy Spirit-guided Church.

        If you`re determined to cling to fake prophecies, along with all of the other stubble, that`s your affair. You can`t say you weren`t alerted to the danger.

      • Stephen

        Hi Fink. You can quote all the saints you like regarding the 1000 years. Even though Justin Martyr believed this or,even if it is a long time it doesn’t matter. The Church does not have the authority to interpret the meaning of the Book of Revelation. Jesus, the Lamb that was slain is the only one worthy to open the sealed book ( Dan XII ) . Further, re-iterating what I said earlier, the teaching of the Church on millenarianism only applies to manmade utopias and has nothing to do with the future Kingdom which is ruled over by Christ. As for the dwelling of Christ’s followers in Jerusalem I have no disagreement. St. John said as much in the Book of Revelation .

        As to the so called error of saying MDMs messages are Holy Scripture I can only appeal to Faith. As I am firmly convinced that the Holy Trinity and the Blessed Virgin are speaking to the Church and the world and that they have all the authority necessary to proclaim that these messages are such.

        The warning not to blaspheme by saying these messages are from the Devil is one you should take seriously. Why do you and others so viciously attack them? Jesus told us in other messages that He understands that many may not believe them . This punishment is not for those who can’t believe but for those who blaspheme the Holy Ghost.
        My recommendation to this website and others like it is to shut it down and do penance.

        As for MDM’s association with a medium (and all the other villains you cite), even if I could accept the facts I would be highly suspicious of such prejudiced “researchers” as is found here and have to conclude that you are guilty of guilt by association. I would need a lot more “proof” than the article provides.

      • Stephen you posted…”The Church does not have the authority to interpret the meaning of the Book of Revelation. Jesus, the Lamb that was slain is the only one worthy to open the sealed book”

        Wow! .. are you really a Catholic? Who do you think interpreted the passages of scripture that point to our salvation? How do we know Jesus was talking literally when he said in John 6 that we have to eat His Body and drink His Blood? How do we know? The Non-Catholics can’t tell this truth from reading Scripture, they say it is symbolic. We know Stephen because the Church GAVE us the New Testament, and it is their interpretation of the Word of God we abide by. This is the way God wanted it. Anyone can come along and say theirs is the correct interpretation of a certain passage of Scripture, but if the Church doesn’t agree, then forget it! This is the way it has always been..and it can never change.

        “In the power of the same Holy Spirit, Peter,
        both the chief of the apostles and the keeper
        of the keys of the kingdom of heaven, in the
        name of Christ healed Aeneas the paralytic at
        Lydda.” St. Cyril of Jerusalem, 350 A.D

        “Peter received the keys to Heaven as a sign to all
        the children of the Church, so that if they separate from the one faith which
        he teaches, they give up all hope of being acquitted of their guilt and of
        entering the eternal portals.” St. Bede, 710 A.D.

        “The ‘power of the keys’ designates
        authority to govern the house of God, which is the Church.” CCC 553.

      • Stephen you posted…”As I am firmly convinced that the Holy Trinity and the Blessed Virgin are speaking to the Church and the world and that they have all the authority necessary to proclaim that these messages are such.”

        Yes the Church has all authority and has deemed them to be not in line with Catholic teachings. The errors are blatant Stephen!

        Now seeing as the writings are a danger to the faithful, we have every right to attack them. We also pray that your eyes will be opened to the truth because your soul is in danger. Read my previous post on that subject.

      • “As for MDM’s association with a medium (and all the other villains you cite), even if I could accept the facts I would be highly suspicious of such prejudiced “researchers” as is found here and have to conclude that you are guilty of guilt by association. I would need a lot more “proof” than the article provides.”

        Ok here is the absolute truth. Joe Coleman is well known as a psychic turned seer. Here is something I copied from a website dealing with psychics. I will have to make a few posts as it’s quite long.

        Part One

        3rd Nov 2009 …”Does anyone know if Joe is still in Ballyfermot giving readings and if so would anyone have his number to make appointment to see him? Would love to get a reading done.”

        “you have to go to him, usually. or come and collect him and will go to a house if there is a few people to see him 4-5. He does not drive himself. i think he is very good. Some times he is busy , and you would have to wait a few days , or more to see him.”

        “He doesn’t need to use cards. The Virgin Mary speaks directly through him, and only asks for €60, which isn’t bad, you have to admit, for a direct conversation with the Mother of Jesus. Even Ben Dunne couldn’t beat that.”

        “For the record, the one time I went to see Joe Coleman he did tarot cards with me, and said 2 members of my immediate family that had passed on were in the room, this is where I felt quite calm and comforted. The Virgin Mary was mentioned once, he said he prays to her and has had visits, I didn’t ask anything about it, he didn’t offer anymore information. I was very pleased with the tarot reading, BUT I will stress this, even though I believe in the afterlife I take all readings with a pinch of salt. The point I was trying to make is that I found him to be a very nice person, who strongly believes in what he does. “

        4th Nov 2009…”This man claims to be a Marian visionary therefore it could be assumed that he presents himself as a Catholic or Christian.” Despite this, he operates in the psychic / medium / new age arena – which is completely contrary to Catholism and Christianity. Its fairly simple. If you are a Catholic or Christian then you should have nothing to do with psychics / mediums and the new age “movement”. If you are not Catholic or Christian then by all means seek whatever you want to seek – but then why would anybody seek “comfort” from a person who claims to be a Marian visionary if they are not Catholic / Christian. “This man is a walking contradiction.”

        “I’d say Joe is both, he is also clairvoyant and a visionary.”

        http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055555828&page=5

        I am sure that you can see from the above that Joe ( who is a lovely man by the way) is most definitely a psychic and could never be hearing and seeing visions from the Virgin Mary/ Heaven just does not work with psychics.

        To be continued

      • Part Two

        The following list of people participated in Joe’s spiritual/ prayer sittings. The name Mary Carberry can be clearly seen.

        Leo Murtagh Offline chris mcmahon Offline Dave Offline Gary Branigan Offline Janet Dunne Offline Louise Toal Offline Lyn Furlong Offline Mary Carberry Offline Sean lydon Herzmariens

        http://www.joesjourney.net/12211-2/ The information is available on Joe’s website

        Martin Roth, Mary’s publisher for the book of truth has written that Mary ran Joe’s website. His own words can be located on this site.

        Here are Mary’s own words from an email she sent.to Ron Conte

        “I am the second visionary. We both see Our Lady as well as her beloved son Jesus Christ. I also see a nun during the apparitions which I have been led to believe is Sister Faustina the Polish nun who are given a prayer of the Divine Mercy to prepare the world for the Second Coming back in the 1930′s. Visions of St Philomena and St Bernadette have also occured from time to time. They are becoming more pronounced and more frequent in recent weeks. Neither of us knew each other in advance and come from different types of backgrounds and education. One this for sure is that the apparitions not only happened but many of them were witnessed by quite a few people. We receive messages every month. From the beginning Our Lady asked that we publish them. Joe has gone public – I manage the website but have not gone public because I dont have the courage to tell you the truth. Nor could I put my family through what Joe’s family had to endure when he went public. The Catholic Church have banned us from Knock in Co Mayo where the sun began to spin and shake in the sky after each apparition predicted in advance. Neither of us have ever read the Bible (because as Catholics for some reason it is not taught in schools – yes this is true). Yet the messages received all relate to biblical prophecies which did not make sence in the beginning. but now, of course, they do. Either way after a very tough year in which our lives have been turned upside down and inside out – riducled, laughed at, mocked and banned along with all the genuine believers from entering the Catholic Church in the grotto at Knock, the messages, are of huge significance for the world as the Second Coming of Christ is about to take place. No date has been given nor will it Our Lady says. But the time is very close now. We have been given YEARS but not dates regarding the Second Coming. The Tribulation has already started. The second half starts at the end of 2012/beginning of 2013 and will last four years until 2016. The ‘Trinity Years’ as the period was referred to by the Holy Spirit will last from 2013-2018 the sign of the beast 666. The first six relates to the one world economy. The second six relates to a new world leader – the anti-christ and the last six relates to the abolition of all religions into one new false religion. Reference was also made to the lifting up into the clouds but it was not clear. It seems to refer to the year 2013 but we are not sure. Visions have also been given to Joe about future events, places, cities, and islands which will all be destroyed. In your writing you have been accurate in one you predicted but we have not gone public with those”

        At this point you might be saying.. well she sounds sincere. I don’t doubt that at all Stephen because she does ACTUALLY BELIEVE she’s hearing God’s voice. But can the voice be from God? Joe is a psychic..that’s clear enough. He talks about his ability to do readings for people..and as we can see above he also uses the Tarot cards. So Joe is definitely not a true seer. So tell me why did Mary’s god tell her he was? Mary says… “..She manages his website. Now why would she do that…run a psychics website? Naive? Possibly. ” We both see Our Lady” She obviously believes in him because she tells us. ” Visions have also been given to Joe about future events. It was while she was involved with Joe that she started receiving her own ‘visions’ Stephen ask yourself.. why didn’t God warn Mary that Joe was a psychic? There is only one answer Stephen they both hear the same ‘voice!’

        Only a false seer would agree with a false seer’s ‘apparitions’. A genuine seer would know from God that he was false, and of course Mediums are not God’s instruments.

    • Fink

      PS to Stephen:
      From an article by Fr Peter Joseph, titled:
      “Private Revelations: Keep to What Is Countenanced by The Church”:

      “The devil rejoices when Catholics reject the tried and true means of spiritual growth to chase after the extraordinary and the unapproved…

      It is forbidden, as well as sinful, to propagate private revelations which have received a negative judgement from the local bishop, the conference of bishops, or the Vatican`s Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith…

      Even if the local bishop should mistakenly disapprove of a genuine revelation, obedience to the Church remains paramount. In some cases, it is a sin to propagate a private revelation, but it can never be a sin not to propagate one. This applies both to claimed seers and to followers. In fact, if an alleged seer disobeys a legitimate order from the bishop, this is a sure sign that the message is not from God. EVEN IF A GENUINE PRIVATE REVELATION HAS BEEN GIVEN, NOT EVEN GOD HIMSELF WOULD WANT OR COMMAND A SEER TO SPREAD IT AGAINST A LAWFUL DECREE OF A BISHOP TO DESIST [emphasis added].

      After error itself, the mark of a false mystic is wilfulness and disobedience..

      The simple fact is that most claimed revelations are false. It is extremely foolish, therefore, to devote oneself to propagating a disapproved or dubious message, which might actually come from the Father of Lies. If one day you see its falsity for itself, you will regret it enormously, and be unable to undo the harm done to others…It is better to keep to what is countenanced by the Church, than to go it alone and risk being a dupe of the devil.”

      …………………………………………………..

      “…Francis the Destroyer of the Faith…”!!!
      You desperately need the Sacrament of Confession!!!
      Re-read Johnkonnor`s last comments on the 12th.!
      And get your nose out of all of the infernal stuff you`ve been duped into following!

      • Stephen

        Thank you Fink. I do appreciate your knowledge and understanding of the Faith. It is obvious that you love Holy Mother Church and doubtless would defend her to the death.
        You believe that even God himself would not ask a seer to disobey a Bishop. Is this a Church teaching or an opinion? Are there exceptions?
        What if the Church had fallen into such modernistic heresy and Masonic infiltration that it became one big bureaucratic impediment to its own mission of proclaiming the Gospel? What if this schism is now absolutely necessary in order to separate the wheat from the chaff and present to God a Church without spot or wrinkle?
        The latest news from the Destroyer: he would baptize Aliens. After all who is he to judge? Since these so-called Aliens are actually demons who are trying to convince the world of extra-terrestrial life ( there is no such thing ) he’s telling us he would baptize demons. Sounds like the False Prophet to me.

      • Stephen

        The Papolatry on this website is palpable – the clericalism claustrophobic – and neo-conservative drivel is driving traditional Catholicism to catatonic states of despair under a Vatican run by a heretic of hubric proportions puffed up on a pedestal of phony humility and heteropraxis while drooling modernistic manure to mankind .
        Time for wimpy Catholics to wake up and prepare for battle against the two Beasts – one seated at the summit of the Church – the other yet to be presented to the World.
        Time to reject the bile that spews forth from those formed in theological cemeteries since the VII rocket blew the doors off the Temple of God a generation ago – a generation hungering for the Truth and getting the fetid social gospel that deadens the soul and drags to Hell a society that enshrines literally every known sin and calls it very good.
        Time to rid the Church lobbies of all those mindless pamphlets with pretty pictures that nourish the ego but do nothing to save the soul.
        Time to call out the Bishops and Priests who savage the Truth and persecute those who follow it. Don’t listen to them if nonsense comes out of their mouths.
        Time to prepare for Schism – not caused by those who love the Truth – but those who hate it and give themselves to evil – those who as we speak are taking over – the Vaticanistas – the Illumminati – led by the Destroyer who calls himself Pope but is the False Prophet.

    • PocketSketch

      We have found that these errors . . . are not Catholic, as mentioned above, and are not to be taught, as such; but rather are against the doctrine and tradition of the Catholic Church, and against the true interpretation of the sacred Scriptures received from the Church. Now Augustine maintained that her authority had to be accepted so completely that he stated he would not have believed the Gospel unless the authority of the Catholic Church had vouched for it. For, according to these errors, or any one or several of them, it clearly follows that the Church which is guided by the Holy Spirit is in error and has always erred. This is against what Christ at His ascension promised to His disciples (as is read in the holy Gospel of Matthew): “I will be with you to the consummation of the world”; it is against the determinations of the holy Fathers, or the express ordinances and canons of the councils and the supreme pontiffs. Failure to comply with these canons, according to the testimony of Cyprian, will be the fuel and cause of all heresy and schism.” Pope Leo X, “Condemning the Errors of Martin Luther”,1520.

      • Fink

        Hello Stephen:
        The belief that not even God Himself would want a seer to disobey a bishop is not an opinion: it`s DOGMA. There are no exceptions.

        About 20 years ago, a teenager in the Sydney (Australia) area claimed to be receiving locutions direct from God. Most of them urged the usual devotions: Mass, the Rosary etc.
        So far, so good.
        Then, one alleged locution started off with:
        “Woe to you unbelievers who say that these messages are from the deranged mind of a young boy! You will feel My wrath on Judgement Day!”
        ABSOLUTE BALONEY!!!
        The only proof needed to show that these “locutions” were NOT from God! But a lot of devout people were deceived.
        Ditto on both counts re the threats (etc) uttered via Mary Carberry.

        A number of saints (can`t remember names offhand) who received messages were ordered by their supperiors and/or spiritual advisors not to propagate them. They obeyed, and eventually were vindicated. If they hadn`t obeyed, they wouldn`t have been canonised.
        Obedience versus disobedience.

        Regarding the literal millenium:
        It`s definitely false.
        And yet the entity emphasises it!
        More proof of the nature of the entity!
        Re-read that Catechism passage a number of times. Eventually, the penny will drop. Notice the conflict between WITHIN HISTORY and BEYOND HISTORY. The reference is to theological millenarianism: not secular millenarianism.

        How do you know what sort of aliens Francis is referring to? (i don`t believe in `em.)
        Not having heard him, i can`t really comment, but…
        one day you may come to regret this name-calling.
        Someone said to me that he`s watching Francis like a hawk. Maybe, or…Some are watching him like VULTURES!!!

      • Stephen

        The Destroyer has now planned an ecumenical tour of the Holyland. He has invited Muslims and Jewish Rabbis to join him. This can only be another of his antics to promote the One World Church. Once upon a time the Church stood guard over Christendom fiercely defending the Faith and denouncing all heretical religions .Now we all hold hands and sing `cumbeya`.Hey, why not invite the Martians to join them.

        Why aren`t all the theologians here commenting on Bergoglio`s follies. Because deep down you must know that something is terribly wrong with this Papacy. Either that or you are terrified to criticise a cleric when he behaves badly and says heretical stuff.

        There is a blatant heresy in Evangelli Gaudium. The Jewish Covenant was certainly revoked.

      • Fr. Duffy fighting 69th

        Add in Bishop Nunzio Galantino’s comments about the acceptance of homosexuality. Blatant heresy, and one of Francis’ hand-picked men too.

      • …see Matthew 5 -17…Jesus came to fulfill and perfect adding amplitude and justification….MDMers guilty of sinning against the Holy Spirit by impugning the known truth…through lack of reasonable deliberation by denying important Church precepts already outlined….as well by saying faith is purely internal as MDM tells us and does not nessitate a Church…we have the heresy of semi pelagianism where man can have a power over God negating efficacious grace and the sufficient of the cross..also jansenism and balanism where we are told…in order to merit or demerit in a state of fallen nature we must be free of external constraint but not internal necessity…this is clearly against Church teaching where we have a fortification of the will through grace rather than a suppression of liberty through interior necessity as we are told by MDMers….MDM is false

      • Fink

        If only these comments could be in chronological order!Or am i missing something?

        To Stephen:
        “The Papolatry on this wabsite is palpable…”
        Have you ever heard of papal infallibility? Do you understand that he`s literally unable to teach heresy on matters of Faith and Morals?
        Or are you saying that he`s not even a validly elected pope? In which case: when Benedict dies, are you going to say that we have no pope? If that`s the case, you`ll be joining the ranks of the sedevacantists, along with such notables as the Dimond brothers and the Society of Saint Pius the Fifth. You`ll enjoy the vitriol they`ve been spewing out for the past 3 or 4 or 5 decades.

        “…the VII rocket…”
        Clever wordplay, but false.
        Vatican II did NOT call for the abuses which have been inflicted on the Church in so many places. Anyway, that`s already been stated, along with the need for a cleanout.

        Schism, all right!
        Helped along by folks like you who don`t know one end of the Catholic Faith from the other!
        “A little knowledge is dangerous.”
        Adding a few words to a previous partial-quote:
        “He who knows not, and knows not he knows not, is a fool…”

        You`ve gone back to Protestantism.
        Your “Catholic” “friends” have a lot to answer for, unless you went after the DWM cult etc off your own bat.

      • Fr. Duffy fighting 69th

        Francis apologists rant away, while meanwhile he and his Gang of Eight spout heresies right and left. Bishop Nuncio Gandalino is the latest. No taboo on homosexuality, disrespect for devout pro-life rosary prayers, married priests, Communion for adulterers and on and on. You all want the focus to be Mary Carberry, when the focus should be on FRANCIS! You are cowards! And you can’t or won’t face the truth about what is being done at the highest levels of our Church hierarchy. But one day you will have to face the truth. Do you have the courage to proclaim your love for Jesus Christ in the face of death? Or will you scurry for cover under the black robes of the heretical clerics? Time is running out.

      • Fink

        To “Fr Duffy”:
        “Francis` apologists rant away…”
        The only ranting going on here is by you and Stephen (His last “comment” was a definitive one.), and some others earlier on.
        Blind rage.

        Don`t you trust God`s promise and ability to protect the Church from heresy?
        If you think Francis (“the Destroyer”!) is actively engaged in wrecking the Church, then you better change your screen name to “Martin Luther”, “John Calvin” or some other arch heretic`s name. Your present name is an insult to a great man.

        “But one day you will have to face the truth…”
        That applies to you, and for your sake, may it be in this life.

        You and Stephen have lost it.

      • @MDMers…..when it is said in prophecy the apostasy will begin in ROme in an angogical sense it is meant as a result of pride spiritual lust envy of authority and inoridinate self love…the virtues of humility charity and hope will become wanting in many…and so like all the major schisms of the past the head of the Church will be attacked by the devil and this is the signification of in Rome where the head of the Church rests….the apostates inobedientae and the apostates irregularitatis will gain momentum through rancor and disdain for the authority and become apostates perfidia which means they will deny the faith as expounded by Christ which has an internal aid and an external edifice to which the internal movement if properly cultivated will flow towards…and so God’s will not be established in such people…..for they have denied the three virtues of baptism namely faith hope and charity..and so in doing have denied the faith..as we see in MDM….now the devil has his disciples as does God and as we see from the cloud of unknowing a medeival manuscript written by an erudite monk we have a characterization of an action of the spirit of the devil who sows chaos however he attempts to make it seem as if it were not so since he is subtle and beguiling( ie the serpent) ….to wit….from an excerpt….”SOME men the fiend will deceive on this manner. Full wonderfully he will enflame their brains to maintain God’s law, and to destroy sin in all other men. He will never tempt them with a thing that is openly evil; he maketh them like busy prelates watching over all the degrees of Christian men’s living, as an abbot over his monks. ALL men will they reprove of their defaults, right as they had cure of their souls: and yet they think that they do not else for God, unless they tell them their defaults that they see. And they say that they be stirred p. 249 thereto by the fire of charity, and of God’s love in their hearts: and truly they lie, for it is with the fire of hell, welling in their brains and in their imagination”…and so this is what we see occuring in the MDM camp..the devil is inflaming their hearts with the anti-virtue of perjury, calumny, condemnation, false witness, impatience, ,mistrust, hatred, etc..in order to dismantle the tenets of faith….amen

      • Fr. Duffy fighting 69th

        Hey Fink. If I were you I wouldn’t be talking about screen names, unless of course yours is completely descriptive. You are completely ignoring the string of statements by Francis and the Gang of Eight. Why? Do you support the pablum Galandino is spewing forth? Respond to that point specifically – removing the taboo on aberrant sexuality, Communion for adulterers, attacking pro-life rosary prayers etc. When will you and your cohorts wake up to what is happening? The traitors in Rome are clearly laying the groundwork for major changes in the Church’s teachings on life and human sexuality. And will they stop there, or will they continue to attack other tenets of our Faith? Now is the time to prepare for open schism, and to prayerfully consider how we will support the priests and bishops who maintain their fidelity to the True teachings of the Roman Catholic Church.

      • …@ MDMers…there is no such thing as a gang of 8..this is a fabrication…as are all the propositions set forth by the MDMers….your fallacy of composition of attribution of a part to characterize the whole is only a device to justify your repeated appeals to credulity which only aim to sow fear and loathing in the hearts..thereby working against the Holy Spirit by cutting holes in the nets of joy…when the apostles threw the net over the right side of the boat this simulated providing correct doctrine with which to catch souls however the nets when pulled in contained tears and rips and this is evident of false doctrine such as your repeated arguments ex culo….yours is the masked man fallacy..a formal fallacy of illicit substitution of identicals taking the form here…which is an illict use of Leibniz’s law..if one object has a certain property while another object does not have the same property, the two cannot be identical and so…father duffy believes pope francis is a heretic….the masked man (ie satan is a heretic)….therefore the masked man (satan) is pope francis..thank you so much MDM and father duffy for saving us from the devil!!!!!! nice work indeed

      • PocketSketch

        “AFTER the soul leaves the body, whether it is in a state of grace or not, SATAN TORMENTS THROUGH THE POWER of seduction. He tries, even then, to draw souls to him.” MDM, Sept.26, 2012.

        “Those, in fact, who find themselves in the state of purification are united both with the blessed who already enjoy the fullness of eternal life, and with us on this earth on our way towards the Father’s house.” St. John Paul II. Hence, the faithful departed “in a state of purification”, in purgatory, “are united with the blessed who already enjoy the fullness of eternal life.” Again, the devil is no where to be seen.

        “Death puts an end to human life as the time open to either accepting or rejecting the divine grace manifested in Christ. The New Testament speaks of judgment primarily in its aspect of the final encounter with Christ in His second coming, but also repeatedly affirms that each will be rewarded IMMEDIATELY after death in accordance with his works and faith.” (Catechism 1021)

        So there you have it, “Death puts an end . . . to either accepting or rejecting. . . divine grace.” The faithful are judged “immediately after death . . .” No room whatsoever for further shenanigans from the evil one.

        “Each man receives his eternal retribution in his immortal soul at the very moment of his death, in a particular judgment that refers his life to Christ: either entrance into the blessedness of heaven – through a purification or immediately, or immediate and everlasting damnation.” (Catechism 1022)

        As death puts an end to all rejecting of divine grace, one can no longer sin after death. This is definitive Church teaching. Therefore, it is balderdash to pretend Jesus could teach this new revelation that “after the soul leaves the body . . . in a state of grace . . .Satan torments” them “through the power of seduction” . . . “to draw souls to him.” Conclusion, Mary Carberry has lost all credibility that she speaks with any God-given inspiration, direction or authority.

      • Fr. Duffy fighting 69th

        Johnkonnor72. Blah, blah, blah…MDM, MDM, MDM. Try addressing one issue. Bishop Nuncio Galandino’s statements. Statements he claims were made with the assent, and the under the guidance, of Francis. Apostasy is breaking out into the open and all you can do is go after Mary Carberry. Forget Carberry, and take a sober look at Francis and his Gang of Eight, if you can. Or continue to retreat into your pharisaical cave and spout theology. However, eventually you will either have to come out into the light of Truth, or perish in the miasma of the spirit of the Antichrist. Time is short.

      • ..i am not familiar with what the galandino had said..and i dont trust your manner of indictment so dont bother posting it since your transliteration is most likely to be biased…either way it is a fallacy of composition… all one can say is that if a bishop colour his hair yellow and cuts the buttocks out of his trousers and starts promenading through gay parade we can say he is setting a bad example..and if the pope is supporting such behaviour it is also poor judgement on the pope’s part…that being said we have a deposit of faith…and if the pope should stray from that he would excommunicate himself through his actions and so his communions would be null but not his obligations however he would ultimately be forced to resign as per canon 335-Can. 335 When the Roman See is vacant, or completely impeded, no innovation is to be made in the governance of the universal Church. The special laws enacted for these circumstances are to be observed.
        …..so you cannot simply abandon the Church as you are saying if it turns out the pope starts acting gravely immoral and tries to change the deposit of faith..in this case the the roman see would be impeded and so the college of cardinals would take over…forcing the pope to resign if he had not repented of his errors which brought about his excommunication latae sententiae..the pope is above canon law per se by character of office but not by action…. he is bound by the natural law and where the two intersect he is culpable and he cannot transgress and so this would impede the action of the roman see…what MDM is espousing is completely incorrect …..if you want to trust MDM no big whoop….its your business..but so long as u persist in spouting your philippics against the CHurch and wailing out your pangeyrics for your new salvator MDM in public forums we will be here to resist….take care

      • Fr. Duffy fighting 69th

        Johnkonnor72. You are being disingenuous if you say you don’t know what Galandino said. His statement is available on CNA -Catholic News Agency, a legitimate, and orthodox catholic site, for all to see. And why do you keep bringing up MDM? Forget her, and focus on Francis. If he breaks into open heresy and apostasy it is incumbent upon faithful Roman Catholics to fight openly and vigorously against him, and his minions. October’s Synod is potentially the opening salvo of anathema rules regarding – Communion for adulterers, repositioning of church teaching on homosexuality, married priests and who knows what else. Finally. will you address Galantino’s statement or not?

      • PocketSketch

        “I will use you to announce with a quiet voice the reign of the Antichrist’s beginning. It will be a time very soon, when the sacrifice of the Sacred Mass is no longer sacred to many. The horrible sacrilege will be man himself, exalted, replacing Me at My altars as the gods. They will at that time remove Me from My Tabernacle-Thrones. Quietly and together, We will sweep a Movement of the fire of My Holy Spirit across all nations to rectify the neglect of Me as fully God, alive with you in the Eucharist. It will be a Movement that gathers an adoring and obedient remnant away from the antichrist and his alterations of My House and My Sacrifice (the Mass). Tabernacles will be torn down. Sacred statues will be destroyed. The Mass will be altered and in many places terminated, leaving echoing barns with wordy ceremonies in the place of My Sanctuaries . . . The antichrist will appear, at that time, to have removed Me as the eternal sacrifice, but My REMNANT [ARMY] will bring forth a small obedient flock who will not adore the horrible sacrilege of man himself on My altars .” December 8, 1987

        “The day when the deceit of the beast will be exposed for all to see will be a day no one will forget. For that day, as the world will see the imposter, the antichrist, rise with My Crown on his head – dressed in the robes of red – will be the day when fire will pour from his mouth. As the horror finally sinks in, fire will envelop him and he and all those who pledged allegiance to him will be cast into the abyss.” Nov.12, 2013

        MDM readers know who Mary Carberry has identified as “the imposter.” Therefore, the name “the antichrist” which directly followed that now familiar title effectively proclaimed Pope Francis the Antichrist. It would seem that no amount of ‘fire pouring forth from the mouth’ of Mary Carberry is enough to convince Catholics to disassociate themselves from her. Catholics have heard it all before. I added one word to the first message: army.

      • Fink

        To “Fr Duffy”:
        You`re right about my screen name. Actually, it`s based on the king of Id:
        “The king is a FINK!”
        More appropriately, i`m only about the same height as the king of Id.
        But, you probably haven`t read “The Wizard of Id”, so all of this probably means nothing to you.
        i don`t use screen names which are above my station in life.

        On to more serious matters:
        Do you have the faintest notion of the Truth that the successors of Saint Peter are protected from being able to “definitively” teach heresy? What Cardinal or Archbishop or Bishop someone or other says, or supposedly says, as his own personal opinion, doesn`t count. Heaven knows the late skewed Cardinal Martini came out with some rubbish…and that`s all it was. What the heretic Fr H Kung says is just as worthless.
        Tragically, most of your own comments have contained rubbish, as well.
        You simply don`t know what you`re talking about; and it`s distressing to see your mental and spiritual state.

        “Now is the time to prepare for open schism…”
        You don`t have to do that: you`re already well prepared, complete with a heap of slogans.

        The latest published message by the entity claiming to be Jesus says:
        “I will will raise up, within My Church, a man who will proclaim the Truth…”
        This is interesting because Mr Kamm will be released from prison in October 2015. He`s in with a chance, don`t you think? “Petrus Romanus”; or have i grabbed the bull by the tail? [i`ve forgotten whether Petrus Romanus is supposed to be good or bad! But that alleged prophecy is a fake, anyway. Shrug.]

      • Fr. Duffy fighting 69th

        Fink. Typical rant, no substance, and no addressing the issue of Galandino’s remarks. Fine. However, there will be more statements from the Gang of Eight over the coming months as they prepare for the initial heretical declarations at the Synod on October. And I will continue to present them to people like you. Because the final arbiter in this whole scenario will be the ACTIONS of Francis and his Gang of Eight, as those will have a direct impact on the Faithful, and the direction of the Roman Catholic Church. That is the Truth of the matter, not theological musings and canonical propositions. And by he way, I was reading the Wizard of Id comic strip when you were still pooping in your diaper. So save your mocking retorts for your internet buddies, Fink.

      • …there is neither rhyme nor reason in ANY of your retorts…everything u say is tu quoque and ex culo…absolute truth is not relative..i will end with this…CANON I.–If any one saith, that there is not in the New Testament a visible and external priesthood; or that there is not any power of consecrating and offering the true body and blood of the Lord, and of forgiving and retaining sins; but only an office and bare ministry of preaching the Gospel, or, that those who do not preach are not priests at all; let him be anathema.
        Council of trent on the sacrament of orders…tell me what heresy pope Francis EXplicitly broached or even implicitly for that matter….everything in your repertoire is inuendo…speculation….wait and see….its a mad game of clang or echolalia with u and I don’t know why I bother…honestly I have never met such a self righteous person..who are you to watchdog the Church?…. quite sad really…I hope you are happy when like a child with a new watch u dismantle it and then see the damage you have done when u understand you arenot able to put the pieces back right..its a dangerous game u play…trying to tear a Church of 2000 years which God has set right…u do not have the mind of God to reckon with such a delicate piece of spiritual machinery good day…

      • Fink

        To “Fr Duffy”:
        “Fink. Typical rant…”
        Was “rant” a typo?
        Maybe you meant “runt”. In my case, that`d be more appropriate.
        If your outlook were not so tragic, it`d be funny.

        What do “Galandino`s” remarks have to do with it? He`s not the Pope.
        But, in any case, you don`t believe in papal infallibility, do you? Neither did the schismatics who formed the “Old Catholics” after the (First) Vatican Council was abandoned.
        There you are, fuming and hysterically carrying on, with no trust in God`s promise to His Church. You`re wasting energy which could be spent on helping to build up the Church, rather than attempting to tear Her down. You`ve fallen into Satan`s “divide and conquer” trap. He`s filled you with rage.

        Rgarding The Wizard of Id, you`re wrong on that one, as well. When the strip started, i was out of nappies. [Australians still call them “nappies”.] Year of birth was 1954; so i`d been house-trained by 1964.
        Li`l Abner was another matter.

      • Fr. Duffy fighting 69th

        Fink. Oh, an Ozzie, should have know. I will deal with that later. 1) Galandino is a hand-picked man, and in the Gang of Eight. 2) His comments were sanctioned by Francis. 3) Papal infallibility is a specific theological concept and does not rise above the Universal Truth of God’s Church. 4) We have had some awful, fallible Popes in Church history. 5) I am trying to defend the Church. The Roman Catholic Church as defined by its foundation – The Holy Trinity, the Divinity of Jesus Christ, the True Presence, the Sacraments, the Blessed Mother as Co-Redemptrix, the Communion of Saint and the Promise of the Kingdom of Heaven. If Francis attacks any of these tenets, I will fight him to my last breath. 6) I am not angry, just a little grumpy because I am over 50. 7) My sister married a Kiwi and lives on the North Island. I have visited your your penal colony rock a number of times. There are some fantastic people who live there, and some awesome Catholics too. And it is an amazingly beautiful place, with an incredibly varied ecosystem. My daughter has a devotion to St. Mary Mackillop. However, sometimes Ozzies tend toward parochial thinking when it comes to universal principles, Faith, world history, culture, art and the importance of Australia in the grand scheme of things. Australian Catholics can be extremely rigid in their thinking, probably a result of living in a society that has largely thrown away their Faith. Anyway. As far as Francis goes. He will reveal himself over time to be a True Pope or a False Prophet. I will not pre-judge him, but will keep a very close on him and his cronies. And I will continue to pray for the Church, and everyone on the planet. Because Salvation is the ultimate goal for all of us, right? G’day.

  42. Stephen

    Why can’t the self-appointed doctor’s of the Church found here answer Fr. Duffy’s question?
    How about an answer to the question I recently asked you? that was: is the Sealed Book of Daniel 12 canonical ?
    I’ll suggest an answer for you : YES. Logical reason: Because the Book of Daniel is canonical and therefore any subset or subspace of it must canonical. Therefore. when it is opened it won’t need any Church approval.
    Furthermore, since Christ himself is the only revealer of this hidden book (Rev.6) not even the Pope himself has the authority to open it.
    How responds the Inquisition?

    • .the power of the keys is twofold….since Christ is the door..the efficacy of the passion is bound to the sacraments..namely baptism…God has bound salvation to Baptism however he himself is not bound by the sacraments to work the works which lead to the consummation of salvation….without the keys and the sacraments visible or invisible there is no salvation…the genus of the key is the power conferred by a subject the ecclesiatic judge..to either exclude ie through excommunication or canonical authority or through admission ie by confession and remission or withholding….the Church has the power to canonise the books of the bible we now have and so the pope has this power to open and shut…

      • …ok I read the galantino remark..as usual u are misrepresenting his stand…he says he doesn’t identify with empty devotions ( ie expressionless) moreso he identifies with those young people who are AGAINST abortion as those who live and work breath a life of practical prayer to make every action and fibre of their being an enemy of this evil act…as well he goes on to say he hopes we can LISTEN without TABOO…meanind we can start a dialogue with those in error instead of just accusing and treating them as something cursed (taboo) so he is not condoning these acts of married priests or gay lifestyl or eucharist for divorced…he is simply saying we need to open up dialogue so such people may hear the voice of truth and hopefully change their ways….in this same article Francis says abortion is evil and that every aborted infant bears the face of Jesus…what more does he need to say?????yours is a strict contextomy as usual….

      • Fr. Duffy fighting 69th

        Johnkonnor72. You are officially a sycophant to the heretical movement in Rome. Galantino’s comments are profoundly disturbing, clearly sanctioned by Francis and open the door to heresy. One wonders if the desire for Truth lives in you at all, or is it that you have been compromised by a pharisaical spirit?

    • Fink

      To Stephen:
      “How responds the Inquisition?”
      One word:
      BALONEY!!!

      The Book of Daniel is canonical, all right. Which one of us said it isn`t? But it`s not for you or any other “End Times” fanatic to interpret it. That`s for THE CHURCH to do.
      You`re certainly mixing with some loons!

      “…the self-appointed doctors of the Church…”
      You orta talk!!!
      One day, you might discover the Catholic Church, and join Her; meanwhile, your outlook is Protestant.
      You have no faith in the truth that God, Himself, gives us the Church to protect His children from the very evils which you claim “the Destroyer” is inflicting on us.
      The role of the Church is to teach, to govern and to sanctify.
      You have no true faith.

      • ..@ duffy…yours is the incorrect usage of sycophant…there is a big difference between sycophanticism and fidelity to a divinely established precept…namely to support the Church and her agents…from the catechism…ARTICLE 2
        WE BELIEVE

        166 Faith is a personal act – the free response of the human person to the initiative of God who reveals himself. But faith is not an isolated act. No one can believe alone, just as no one can live alone. You have not given yourself faith as you have not given yourself life. The believer has received faith from others and should hand it on to others. Our love for Jesus and for our neighbor impels us to speak to others about our faith. Each believer is thus a link in the great chain of believers. I cannot believe without being carried by the faith of others, and by my faith I help support others in the faith.
        ….now sycophanticism has as its final cause one’s own selfish desire…which is not the case with fidelity to an article of the Church…which is rooted in faith and has as its impetus charity with a view to unity….while the sycophant acts out of mistrust and usury of the trust of others..and so is repugnant to faith….now without the CHurch there can be no salvation..and without a visible church we cannot consummate the faith as it is transmitted to us by revelation …..true God is not bound by his Church to work however all grace necessary for salvation comes through this Church..now you dismantle it at your peril…gday

      • Fr. Duffy fighting 69th

        Johnkonnor72. I wonder. Do you ever go to a quiet place with a crucifix, rosary or scripture, and just simply say, “Jesus, I love you”. Or does everything you say to Him start with a Canon Law or Catechism citation? I am honestly asking, and I am not trying to be facetious. I really want to know.

      • .. metaleptic red herring trope…gish gallop…stay on topic….

      • Fr. Duffy fighting 69th

        johnkonnor72 So the answer is no? How sad.

      • Stephen

        The only loon I’m concerned about is the one who is willing to baptize little green men.

        I apologize if I come across as self – appointed … I’m not.

      • Fr. Duffy fighting 69th

        This martian/alien baptizing, and aliens are our brothers thing has been going on for years now. You have Brother Consolmagno of the Vatican Observatory claiming openly that if we meet aliens they are our brothers and are available for a sacramentary Catholic life. The same Vatican Observatory code-named LUCIFER. Now you tell me what this is all about? Francis seems to be indicating that a first contact is imminent. Another indication that Francis has a case of diarrhea of the mouth. Why spout these types of things? It is confusing to the faithful, and tells the secular world our leader has issues. By the way, there is a metaphysical certitude that “aliens” are in fact evil spirits. Another reason to not indicate to the faithful that “aliens” are our brothers.

      • …@stephen…again with a sigh…it is impossible to baptize a demon…”2. The fallen angels are obstinate in evil, unrepentant, inflexibly determined in their sin. This follows from their nature as pure spirits, for the choice of a pure spirit is necessarily final and unchanging.”…Thomas aquinas…to say space aliens are demons is wild catchretic conjecture…either way demons are fixed in sin and so baptism would do them no good

      • Fr. Duffy fighting 69th

        Ergo. You are making my point for me. Just because you don’t see the alien phenomena as a demonic manifestation does NOT mean it isn’t. I know a bit about this area. Either way, Francis is wrong to make such an inane declaration. If they are demonic he couldn’t/shouldn’t baptize them. If they are not demonic manifestations, they are still completely unknown, and theologically inexplicable. And therefore still ineligible for Baptism. Why don’t you just admit it was a really stupid thing for Francis to say?

      • Ha ha I have been wondering why you have been chatting on about aliens so I checked it out……..The pope was only illustrating that the Church must be open to everyone. I mean you didn’t really believe that little green men would present themselves for baptism did you? lol

      • Fr. Duffy fighting 69th

        Aquiness. Francis raised the notion of baptizing martians/aliens, not me. I was merely addressing another of his weird statements. By the way, I have over a decades experience in deliverance and exorcism ministry. And I can tell you that evil spirits have manifested as alien greys to torment people. And these aliens have been put to flight by commanding them in the name of Jesus. This whole alien phenomena cuts across the spectrum of human experience. So it needs to be taken seriously. That is why Francis’ statement is so irresponsible.

      • My daughter is in the deliverance ministry too. What you say about demons masquerading as aliens doesn’t surprise me, though I know nothing about this myself. Just recently I’ve come to the conclusion that there must be life on other planets though

        Still Duffy, the Pope was not speaking literally..

      • Fr. Duffy fighting 69th

        Francis did say it. As to the level of specificity, that is debatable. But Aquiness, I have been following the Vatican-alien story for years. the Vatican observatory in Arizona (code name LUCIFER) is one of the most advanced in the world. One of its spokespersons, Brother Consolmagno, has been stating for years that aliens could be our brothers and therefor are eligible for Sacraments. Whether life exists outside our planet is also debatable. It does not quite fit in with our biblical understanding of the God-man relationship. Although the nephilim could be understood to an “alien” life form. Personally, I think Satan is behind the alien phenomena. And at the very least, humanity, and especially Roman Catholics, need to be very careful about embracing aliens as our brothers. I will pray for your daughter. Only those of us who have experienced being deliverance ministers can truly know how challenging it can be.

      • Fr. Duffy fighting 69th

        Stephen. Praise God you were able, through Jesus’ sanctifying blood, to return to the Christian fold. I have seen in supplicants innumerable times the same experiences you described. I fear many Roman Catholics are unaware of the variety of methodologies Satan uses to corrupt souls. As far as Francis is concerned, I advocate prayerful discernment and observation. This trip to Israel is already becoming controversial. I agree with your assessment of the “alien” phenomena. I believe they are evil spirits.

  43. Stephen

    Thank you Father Duffy for your observations. When, as a good heathen I turned to the occult for the answers to life’s mysteries, I found plenty of demons available to deceive me. One spoke loudly in the room as I played with a Ouija Board, one appeared at the bottom of my bed one night, and another sat on my chest. Other times they simply speak loudly to you inside your head. If you want to know why all the strange killings take place it is because of this. Since becoming a Christian I have had prayers for this having repented for involvement in this Satanic activity.
    There is no question in my mind that so – called alien abduction and other UFO phenomena are a demonic activity to entrap souls. Any sensible reading of Scripture leads one to conclude that God created only angels and men to love and serve Him. We know demons are fallen angels. They can appear in many forms. In modern times they appear to our scientific generation as creatures from outer space – but they are demons.
    To me it appears that FP Frances is preparing the world to accept the One World Religion by baptizing any and all religions without necessary repentance and conversion. It will be interesting to see what he does at the Jordan River on his trip to the Holyland. I would not be shocked if he baptized a Jew or a Muslim on the spur of the moment. No RCIA. Who is he to judge?

    • “To me it appears that FP Frances is preparing the world to accept the One World Religion by baptizing any and all religions without necessary repentance”

      Have you any idea what the NWO would consist of? Persecutions against Christians… so if Our Pope is baptising during those times I would be praising the Lord because he was still alive…Where on earth do you get your ideas from? :-).

      ” I would not be shocked if he baptized a Jew or a Muslim on the spur of the moment.”

      Praise the Lord again Stephen if a Jew or a Muslim wanted to be baptised Christian.und plenty of demons available to deceive me”….Yes Mary’s entity is deceiving you now..

      • That should read…
        …”..and plenty of demons available to deceive me”…

        Yes Mary’s entity is deceiving you now..

      • Stephen

        Where do I get my ideas from? From a premise rejected by you. The premise that all of Catholic and Biblical prophecy tell us of a Great Apostasy in the Church. Read Rev. 12. The Woman flees into the wilderness for three and a half years to be protected ( according Christ’s promise of protecting his Church ) while the Red Dragon spews forth his heresies.
        I get “my ideas” from Jesus Christ Himself who says ” As the new era of radical reforms in My Church commences, many non – Christian groups will be embraced … Those who do not accept Me, because they do not believe in Who I Am, will be welcomed into My Home.” ( Sun. May 18, 2014)
        I get my ideas from Saint Francis who prophesied an un-canonically Destroyer who would baptize aliens and let concubines receive Holy Communion. And the firm belief that the fulfillment of this KEY prophecy is NOW upon us.
        You and all the other sleepy Catholics are on the wrong side of History, the wrong side of Prophecy. and have your diabolically disoriented heads firmly stuck in the sand in which position you cannot not possibly watch your backside.
        By the way, it is becoming quite evident that the evil powers that have been lurking in the Vatican gave us a second Sister Lucy. One who would toe the party line regarding Fatima. Comparing the series of photographs it is obvious that they are not the same woman.

      • Hi Stephen, “Where do I get my ideas from? From a premise rejected by you. The premise that all of Catholic and Biblical prophecy tell us of a Great Apostasy in the Church. Read Rev. 12.”

        I don’t doubt that scripture prophecies will be fulfilled. Satan also knows of these things, after all he is the instigator. This is the reason he sends false seers to confuse the faithful. What a good time he’s having with his many many mouthpieces.. He just loves to watch you all searching in the dirt for anything to pin on the Pope!

        You posted…”I get “my ideas” from Jesus Christ Himself who says ” As the new era of radical reforms in My Church commences, many non – Christian groups will be embraced … Those who do not accept Me, because they do not believe in Who I Am, will be welcomed into My Home.” ( Sun. May 18, 2014)”

        You get those words from Mary Carberry, who started her visions while she was involved with a medium. Poor deluded Mary who believed the psychic Joe was a real seer. Of course if she had been really talking to God he would have warned her about mediums. He also would have warned her against Fr Marie Paul, who is a bishop in the order of the Little Pebble, who as you know is in prison for paedophilia. But no…he didn’t! The entity said he was a “good man” and “important to the mission”

        “I get my ideas from Saint Francis who prophesied an un-canonically Destroyer who would baptize aliens and let concubines receive Holy Communion. And the firm belief that the fulfillment of this KEY prophecy is NOW upon us.”

        Even if that so-called prophecy was genuine it still says the “destroyer” is someone NOT canonically elected. Now even Mary C said he was elected by the Bishops.

        You posted…”You and all the other sleepy Catholics are on the wrong side of History, the wrong side of Prophecy. and have your diabolically disoriented heads firmly stuck in the sand in which position you cannot not possibly watch your backside.”

        Not so Stephen we don’t follow false seers. Following Mary Carberry means you are going to have a new Church, new sacramentals and new scripture…the Book of truth!

        You also posted…”By the way, it is becoming quite evident that the evil powers that have been lurking in the Vatican gave us a second Sister Lucy. One who would toe the party line regarding Fatima. Comparing the series of photographs it is obvious that they are not the same woman.”

        And a false Pope Paul V1 too ? 🙂

        Stephen you have the wrong man!

  44. Stephen

    Father Duffy
    Thank you for your kind remarks. Indeed, I praise God for His mercy. Also, good to see you on the Remnant Clergy sight this morning. Everything you say rings true in a Sea of Bafflegab and Newspeak.

  45. Jorge and the Dragon

    All the generals were careful to keep their heads lowered as they entered the chamber so as to avoid the eyes of the one who sat high above them on his throne. When all were seated Satan spoke.

    “Do you know why I have summoned you all here?”

    “You have a mission for us master?” One of the grotesque beasts ventured.

    “Yes a mission.” Satan leaning forward on his throne. “Now listen carefully” There was an instant quiet. “we cannot afford to make any mistakes this time. I know we have had some victories dividing the followers of,” he paused and pointed upwards, “Him! But now we have a chance of taking millions away from Him.”

    Amid the excited demons sat one named Dalil, an expert in deception and lies. He commanded one hundred legions.”I am ready Master just give me your orders”

    Satan threw his head back and laughed. “Hear what I have to tell you first.” He paused before continuing, ” The German Pope, who sits on the throne in Rome is going to resign.”

    The demons gasped then started murmuring among themselves. A giant beast resembling a bear with the head of a reptile called out “Why, what has happened? Is it because of the factions in the Vatican?” he laughed. “Is it all too much for him?”

    Before Satan could answer him a small twisted black creature with a rat like tail asked gleefully. “Are we going to bring down His Church at last?”

    “Fool!” Satan shouted with uncontrolled fury. “Don’t you know we can’t do that?” He leapt from his throne landing inches away from the now cowering demon who had spoken. The creature moved quickly out of Satan’s way fearing the worst. He knew only too well what it was like to feel his master’s wrath.

    Satan’s face contorted as if in pain. “He, the Christ, made sure that can never happen.” The chamber fell silent. Satan paced up and down before his audience. After some time a huge demon with a protruding jaw and gigantic teeth broke the silence. “We will do whatever you ask of us Master”

    Satan stopped pacing, his piercing black eyes sought the speaker out. “Ah Arael, my cunning friend. You have worked well in the past, leading men to falsehood.” The corners lifted on Satan’s ugly mouth. “Yes we’ve had many victories. Now,” he said, “it is time for another battle.”

    “We are ready Master” The demons all shouted excitedly, thrashing at the air with their weapons.

    “Quiet!” Satan roared.”Just make sure that you are ready because we cannot risk another saintly human running the Vatican. Now to answer the question. ” The German pope is resigning because he cannot cope any more.” Loud guffaws came from his audience. ” He says the Papacy needs new blood, a stronger Pope. You see,” he said, “how well we have done our job? But don’t be too jubilant my generals,” he added quickly, “because you and I know that many of Christ’s men also walk in the Vatican. Our enemies are many” He spat out his words venomously. “Of course,” he continued, “we knew this would happen. We know he tried to resign in the past but the Polish one wouldn’t accept his resignation. Now there is no one to stop him. He’s let it be known to many that he is going to do it, and not do what the other one did, linger to the bitter end to save souls. ” Foolish creature!” he spat. An intense rage started to build up inside him, and not one dared to utter a word for what seemed like an age. “We have time,” he told them finally. “I can see what lies ahead. Not that I am allowed to see everything clearly.” He added through gritted teeth.

    “We have a few of our men in the Vatican working for us.” Arael told him with pride. “They will make sure our man is elected.”

    Satan’s eyes bulged out from his goat like head. “How many times have we tried that before and failed?”

    Dalil nodded in agreement. “In the past, when we did manage to secure the election of those few weak popes, not one of them attempted to change the teachings of the Church.”

    “Exactly,” Satan bellowed. “As corrupt as they were they never did dare do that” But, he added thoughtfully, “if we can make it look as if the next one is going to do that”

    “How?” Arael’s great eyes lit up.

    “Deceit” Satan answered quickly. “And you are the master of deceit Arael. We are going to create one big lie, deceiving many into believing that the next pope is going to change the age old teachings of the Church! This is the way we will destroy the papacy. Those poor deceived souls will believe it all by the time we’re finished” He feigned a look of sadness, before bursting out into hysterical laughter.

    All the demons joined in the laughter. “They will believe him to be the Beast” Shrieked one. “We will make sure of that.” said another. The laughter continued until Satan silenced them all with a roar and a motion of his great paw.

    “What we need for this to work” he said stroking his long hairy chin, “Is to find some human creature, preferably a female, to do our bidding. A Catholic who doesn’t know her faith. One who will not question what we tell her. How does that saying go? “Satan gives 90% truth and 10% untruth.” Satan let out a deep guttural laugh. The demons jumped up and down with delight. Some screeching in high pitched tones. The whole chamber seemed to shake with the hideous sounds.

    Satan waited until the laughter died down before continuing “I’ve thought this over long and hard,” Satan told them. “She will be skilled in public relations and marketing strategies. We will have need of these skills in order to sell the books, and,” he paused, “she will have a good knowledge of our favourite toy, the computer”

    There was a hearty fresh burst of laughter from the demons. “Yes it was our toy,” Arael shouted above the din, “and still is, but,” he spat out, “the Christians also use it for evangelising.

    “Yes that’s true” Dalil interrupted quickly. “Yet still,” He smiled, ” haven’t we managed to cause many to be addicted to so many vices.” He winked at his brother general on his left. “That job has been yours Typho.”

    Typho stood up and bowed as his fellow demons burst into a rapturous applause. “It has been my pleasure” He grinned showing sharp yellow teeth.

    Dalil looked up at Satan “So what will this woman do for us that will cause many to think the next pope will change the teachings of the Church?”

    “She will speak as a prophet,our prophet”

    “There are many of our prophets on earth, so why is this one going to make a difference?”

    “She will have the means to send our messages to the four corners of the earth.” He paused and looked ahead into the future. “Yes I will send them messages like never before. I will offer them a paradise on earth if only they will help me convert souls,” He grinned slyly ” And millions will believe every word.

    “Millions will believe that the next Pope is an anti-pope. That is a great plan Master” Ariel spun himself round and looked at all the generals “You all hear that? He gave a raised fist salute. We will win this battle,” He told them proudly.

    ” Arael” Satan asked suddenly, remember who came in second when the German was elected?”

    Arael turned and looked at him “It was Jorge Bergoglio, the Argentinian Cardinal.”

    “Bergoglio!” Satan snarled. The one who lives in a simple apartment and takes public transportation. That man sickens me with his love for the poor. We can never allow him to become Pope. You hear me Arael?” Satan bellowed. “I won’t have it.”

    “Well there were a couple of others who came close, but if he is elected we can use this love he has for the poor to bring him down. What I mean is”…Arael said quickly. “We could cause all to believe that he is not interested in spreading the gospel so long as the poor are fed and clothed.”

    “Yes that could work.” Satan trembled with excitement.” We will arrange for the media to distort and twist his words so as to cause all to question his meanings.” He sat upright on his throne and addressed all present. “You now know the plan…”

    • …@ MDMers….scientists have recently come up with the 10 most annoying sounds deemed most unpleasant…
      ·10. Electric drill
      ·9. Baby crying
      ·8. Brakes on a cycle squealing
      ·7. Angle grinder
      ·6. Female scream
      ·5. Nails on a blackboard
      ·4. Ruler on a bottle
      ·3. Squeaky chalk on a blackboard
      ·2. Fork on a glass
      1. knife on a glass

      ..after close scrutiny of the MDM messages we should make an honorable addition to the worlds most unpleasant sounds…

      11. the incessant prattling (babbling) on of MDM and her followers concerning messages attributed to Jesus which contradict Catholic teaching, Scripture and COMMON SENSE….

      ie.. you cannot baptize demons, you cannot add to scripture, millenarianism is condemned as a heresy, Jesus cannot be the Pope, Jesus does not grant indulgences, you cannot be absolved of your sins by simply praying an unauthorized crusade prayer without perfect contrition, the current pope is not the head of the serpent (whatever this implies)….and at least a good baker’s dozen more idiotic parlayances attributed to Jesus himself…one problem with this global village is that the village idiots all seem to have access to the internet..now i am sorry if my post seems uncharitable ..at this point MDM and her coven is doing very great harm to unity in the Church and so if these people seek to spread their poison among the faithful they deserve such a scolding since a naked rebuke and a wake up call is preferable to eternal damnation for mocking the CHurch and the Pope and God incidentally …or a long stint in purgatory…take your pick

      • ..if one sincerely lives the Gospel and a well examined sacramental life it will suffice to prepare ourselves to see our God in this life through our neighbour and in the next through grace… by so doing we can pay no regard to these fear-doom messages….since through the joy of a life well lived we will draw more souls to God then through fear and paranoia which are tool box choices of the devil…as well to say one understands the anagogical (spiritual) kernel of the book of Revelations is arrogance at best and madness at worst..since not one of the wise Churchmen or women throughout the ages has ever been able to impart the full meaning of this esoteric book which is full of signs and meanings that will not be revealed to our understanding without beatific uncreated aid of God..meaning maybe in heaven we will see..but now it is through a glass darkly…through a cloud of unknowing

      • Stephen

        Compared to God we are all village idiots.
        By the way, the era of peace promised by our Lady of Fatima IS the MILLENNIUM.
        As for your other idiotic remarks, I’m glad God is my Judge and not you.

      • Stephen

        I sincerely apologize if I have offended anyone in any of my comments. Sarcasm is one of my faults.
        No one in this forum is going to change their mind. The trenches are dug and the artillery is sounding in the distance.
        I only hope that you will wake up before you are forced to take the Mark of the Beast, and you don’t use some nebulous theological excuse to join the One World Order and its’ Whore Church.
        May God have mercy on us all.
        Mother of Salvation, Pray for us
        Good bye
        Stephen

      • The false Church is coming from Mary Carberry Stephen

        MDM May 20th, 2014
        “When Satan is rejected by My Church on Earth, then very little can be done for those who are truly infested by the evil one. When My Church denies the existence of the beast or the eternal abyss into which he and all the fallen angels have been thrown, then you will know that the Truth is not being revealed to God’s children. ”
        The entity says the Church will reject the doctrine of hell and deny the existence of Satan! Is this possible? Absolutely Not! Our Lord said: “He who hears you hears me; and he who rejects you rejects me” Luke 10:16. Concerning faith and morals the Church cannot err. This was the promise of Christ.
        Surely the followers of Mary Carberry know that Christ’s Church can never teach error?
        The Catechism of the Catholic Church states: “The teaching of the Church affirms the existence of hell and its eternity. Immediately after death the souls of those who die in a state of mortal sin descend into hell, where they suffer the punishments of hell, ‘eternal fire.’ The chief punishment of hell is eternal separation from God, in whom alone man can possess the life and happiness for which he was created and for which he longs” (CCC 1035).
        Theologians and Vatican insiders say, Francis has not only dwelled far more on Satan in sermons and speeches than his recent predecessors have, but also sought to rekindle the Devil’s image as a supernatural entity with the forces­ of evil at his beck and call……”
        Pope Francis while presiding over Mass at the Vatican’s chapel in St. Martha’s House warned those gathered on that chilly morning to be vigilant and not be fooled by the hidden face of Satan in the modern world. “Look out because the Devil is present,” he said.
        Recently at the ninth and largest Vatican-sanctioned convention on exorcism attendees gushed about the fresh recognition being afforded the field.
        Almost 200 delegates — most of them priests and nuns — from more than two dozen nations talked about how Satanic cults are spreading like wildfire in the age of the Internet.
        The new pope, exorcists say, has become their champion.

      • @ stephen….gone so soon…here is some sensible prophecy from the 15th century Monk Hilarion regarding your misconstruction of the one world abominable Church…..””Before the Christian churches are reunited and renovated, God will send the Eagle who will travel to Rome and bring much happiness and good. The Holy Man will bring peace between the clergy and the Eagle, and His reign will last for four years. After his death God will send three men who are rich in wisdom and virtue. They will spread Christianity everywhere. There will be one flock, one shepherd, one faith, one law, one life and one baptism throughout the world. “….this prophecy buttresses the scriptural prophecy of one pope one flock and one faith…the gates of hell will never prevail over the Church if u believe contrariwise then u r indeed deceived…

      • ….also from the book of daniel..which Stephen seems to be quite the expert on…daniel chapter 2:44….”44 But in the days of those kingdoms the God of heaven will
        set up a kingdom that shall never be destroyed, and his
        kingdom shall not be delivered up to another people, and
        it shall break in pieces, and shall consume all these
        kingdoms, and itself shall stand for ever.”…u see the one true church will consume all the others and stand forever the only eternal kingdom is of God’s design..ie his aeviternal Church…

  46. Stephen

    I see the Destroyer is going about his diabolical business by having heretics come to pray with him in the Vatican in the interest of peace in the Middle East. So Nero ( you all ) fiddle while Rome burns. The Abomination of Desolation is being set up in God’s Temple before our very eyes while the Masonic useful idiots continue to defend the indefensible. As Anne Catherine stated- the heretics are starting to stream to Rome while the true Prophets are accused of schism – a schism CLEARLY being instigated by
    Bergoglio and the scoundrels around him.

    • aquiness

      Stephen,
      “Pope John Paul was convinced that prayer could bring believers together, an idea that inspired the 1986 World Day of Prayer for Peace in Assisi, Italy.

      That unprecedented gathering at the pope’s invitation drew leaders of Jews, Buddhists, Shintoists, Muslims, Zoroastrians, Hindus, Unitarians, traditional African and Native American religions and many others. Together, under the roof of the Basilica of St. Francis, they all prayed, side by side, with Catholic, Orthodox and Protestant leaders for world peace.”

      ” Pope Benedict XVI comes to the Pope John Paul II Cultural Center in Washington for an early-evening interfaith prayer service April 17 with Buddhists, Hindus, Jews, Muslims, Sikhs and representatives of other religions, space will be at a premium.” CNA

      Were they false prophets too?

      • Wendy Dischler

        in answer to your comment

        –i am tempted to say “which ones”??? haha– 🙂

        i was in a meeting once in which a so-called christian missionary told of help to rebuild a pagan temple that had been destroyed in i believe an ecological event of some kind as if that were to be lauded

        whereas our heavenly father by no means would approve of such a thing

        in the scripture!!! i said so

        our voices are important

        if we are mistaking the institution of the church for the church itself then we are mistaken

        if we put our trust in for instance the high priest of the temple in the time of jesus because he is the official authority we are off-base even if he has the power to speak infallibly ‘ex cathedra’ as he did prophesying that it was one man dying for the people that was better because that house was left desolate and that high priest was one of the bad guys and not preserved because of his office–and neither was the official church

        and nor is this one which may be ungrafted if it behaves not

        but far worse is the individual warning about grafting and to be avoided; for no individual is grafted when he or she proves unfruitful and these unfruitful ones in fact are cut off…and are no longer members of the church whatever their office and that is the point

        i will agree that certain were good–but no one is good but THE LORD our trinity and so also BAD

        IT IS A MISTAKE TO INVITE OTHERS TO PRAY IN UNITY when NOT IN UNITY while it is right to invite others to THE TRUTH

        it is RIGHT to acknowledge that we all have one GOD–and to encourage those WHO ARE REACHING FOR GOD TO DO SO IN WHATEVER WAY THEY UNDERSTAND EN ROUTE

        while we must be aware of ‘the appearance of sin’…

        what is your answer to your question??? i ask
        <+3

      • Stephen

        Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI are not false prophets.
        Just Bergoglio.
        Bergoglio is only interested in establishing a humanistic – socialistic peace on earth, No need for anyone to convert to the only Truth that will save souls. This is clear from what he does NOT say. What he should be saying to these false religionists is that Jesus Christ is ” the Way, the Truth, and the Life” and ” No one comes to the Father except through Me”. Additionally, he should be reminding the world that the Catholic Religion is the only true source of Grace.
        As for Assisi, didn’t an earthquake occur shortly after wake anyone up to what Heaven thought of it?
        Again, the only true peace comes from the Prince of Peace and will only happen during the Era of Peace.

      • Stephen

        Aquiness and Johnkonnor. Where in canon law or dogma is it okay to pray prayers from the Koran in the Church? Is this not the religious indifferentism condemned by Pius X and other holy popes?
        Please… no more inane stream of consciousness theological ramblings.
        You are running around the deck of the Titanic telling passengers to go back to bed while we who believe in prophecy are trying to find more lifeboats. You can’t win. you are fighting against God Himself and you will soon know that. Are you members of the Masonic Lodge and being directed to discredit us? Have you no eyes to see? The world on the brink of another planned War, a church that has drank deeply form the putrid cup of Modernism and headed for chastisement. Get real!

      • aquiness

        Shared prayers that speak of peace are most certainly accepted by Christ.

        At the 2011 gathering one person shared a pledge in the language of Gurmukhi translated as “We commit ourselves to educating people to mutually respect and honor each other in order to help bring about peaceful and fraternal co-existence between people of different ethnic groups, cultures and religions.”

        Pope Benedict XVI concluded the pledge by adding, “Violence never again! War never again! Terrorism never again! In the name of God, may every religion bring upon the earth justice and peace, forgiveness and life, love!”

      • …really???…again learn your faith as aquiness well stated…private revelations ARE NOT part of the deposit of faith….which ended with the last apostle and so are not necessary for salvation…if one believes in this rabble who claims to speak with God’s authority yet who is heaped full of quite simply evident errors that a 8 year old child with a children’s catechism could spot…then such a person has vacated their faculties to some nigh dire devils indeed..it is only out of charity I post…I bother also because the Pope is my friend in the spirit as all Good christian brothers should be…and so I am here to stick up for my brother who is being sucker punched…by a bunch of cowards who don’t deliver the backbone necessary to go to school and get a doctorate of theology and become a proper bishop or priest..yet they claim to. Be a remnant clergy/army..such people who resort to ad hominem attacks….casuistry panegyrics which are mistaken odes to devils…rather than offering relevant disputations to the points salient…I say attack what is said not who we are…we lose NOTHING from ignoring private revelations…while we lose EVERYTHING if we follow these siren calls while dismantling the machinery of Church….for the infant Church had codified mass until the 4th century and so we see due to the implicit nature of the deposit…our body of tradition has grown…the Church is dynamic and ever changing building on the old…it is vibrant and alive….i do not want what you are peddling…for your idea of Church is just as stale as the arguments you educe..read for u have a lot to learn…however it seems the way many MDMERS speak..it is as if they wrote the bible themselves so greatly arrogant and deceived this may be…ecumenism…http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/chrstuni/documents/rc_pc_chrstuni_doc_25031993_principles-and-norms-on-ecumenism_en.html

      • ….above should read…early Church had NO..codified mass for first 4 centuries..thanks

      • …@ stephen..who stated the Catholic Church is the only true source of grace…this is an error…Catechism 1257…God has bound salvation to the Sacrament of Baptism yet God is not bound by the Sacraments…also…the doctrine of Actual whereby a person is aided in a salutary way to do a good which passes after the act has been executed…also seeCatechism…843 The Catholic Church recognizes in other religions that search, among shadows and images, for the God who is unknown yet near since he gives life and breath and all things and wants all men to be saved. Thus, the Church considers all goodness and truth found in these religions as “a preparation for the Gospel and given by him who enlightens all men that they may at length have life.”332…there are truths in other religions however the Catholic Faith contains the whole parcel of revealed truths…and so God through the use of other religions can bring about the consummation of Salvation through Sacraments visible or invisible…so it I don’t believe Pope Francis is the material heretic here doubtful too moreso the formal one…

    • aquiness

      Stephen…. the schism is being prepared by Satan working through Mary Carberry. She is the one that we were warned about in scripture.

      • Stephen

        Again, nonsense. How can an ordinary woman having apparitions cause a schism? Never heard of it before. Even St. Joan of Arc didn’t cause a schism as the Pharisees of the day made sure she was branded a heretic.

      • aquiness

        Stephen…You are the very proof that Mary Carberry is causing a schism! Mind you I am not sure you actually know your faith. Maybe you should be checking out the Catholic faith, instead of Satan’s writings..

      • Stephen

        johnconnor I don’t care if you have three doctorates in theology. As our own Shania Twain sings : ” That don’t impress me much”.
        And I am not attacking you. IF I have, I beg forgiveness. But I should remind you that having a great education does not guarantee wisdom. I have a degree in Mathematics but I know about 1% of the math that there is.
        You act like you have it all together. This website purports to prove that MDM is a false prophet- spouting heresies and unfulfilled predictions. So explain why so many good Catholics, many of whom know the faith well, don’t read these messages the way you do and see NO such heresies.
        All you can do is label us a bunch of ignoramuses and apparition chasers.
        I ask you again, where in the Church’s tradition, teaching etc. is it consistent and proper to read prayers from a heretical, demonic text written by a false prophet, Mohammed, that teaches denial of the divinity of Christ and death to the infidels?

    • ..cum hoc ergo propter hoc or non causa pro causa arguments which the MDM camp has in abundance…these appeal to a consequence of a belief hold no credibility…by saying since pope francis succeeded benedict quizzically somehow pertains to a prophecy by catherine emmerich or to that of daniel”s abomination of desolation through pure coincidence justifies not your eduction of the argument…when biblical scholars and those who are experts in hebrew and latin scripture exegesis have shown that abomination of desolation or (shiqquc shomem) can pertain to a number of events specifically the fall of Jerusalem or the edicts of caligula or antiochus…who was to place statues of idols in the temple…also when put in the proper frame daniel’s prophecy can also point to the crucifixion of Christ as the abomination of desolation which will replace the old sacrifice and which will remain until the end…since Christ was the victim who was immolated and also being holy he was made to suffer as an abomination among the two thieves being made desolate at Golgotha..Gulgoleth in hebrew meaning skull…since Christ the head of the Church was made desolate..hence the skull is the head which has been emptied of its humanity…also latin calvaria for skull fits in well..since Jesus was made to be desolate and placed before the people as an abomination…the skull without its humanity is a symbol of abomination of his humanity…and a victim ..which would replace the old sacrifice until the end….this is also a a singularity which has been put forward….”And after sixty-two weeks Christ shall be slain: and the people that shall deny him shall not be his. And a people with their leader that shall come, shall destroy the city and the sanctuary: and the end thereof shall be waste, and after the end of the war the appointed desolation. [27] And he shall confirm the covenant with many, in one week: and in the half of the week the victim and the sacrifice shall fall: and there shall be in the temple the abomination of desolation: and the desolation shall continue even to the consummation, and to the end”….also the use of time is factually a non literal sense for a week could rightly stand for a year or an age as in the days of creation and its weeks…God’s acts are always pure continuum and cannot be contracted to a period of time..so anyone with a minimal education in theology will know that such use of time in scripture can have significantly veiled meanings to the human understanding….

      • @ stephen…when one reads the discernment of some of the MDMers..one wonders if they haven’t drawn their perspicacious diagnoses from the Malleus maleficarium ..maybe we should subject Pope Francis and the cardinals to trials of ordeal like in the good old by gone days…i suppose the warlocks will succumb neatly to an ordeal of water…as in the days of hammurabi any sorcerer thus suspected would float if guilty or sink if innocent..but of course we have come to understand that the laws of physics do not mirror the laws of morality..and so such ordeals do not reflect divine justice…if we do not invite others to pray with us then we retard the grace of Christ..we cannot captivate the Church since the love of God is a spiration and effusive..it cannot be contained..and you are trying to contain it…the Church is not an exclusive club..and you are the one who will suffer when the great marker comes to ask why you didnt share your gifts..like the unfaithful servant who buried his talents…or when Jesus says…in scripture…http://www.veritasbible.com/commentary/catena-aurea/Luke_6:32-36..love those who persecute you….please educate yourself so that your zeal doesnt not consume you and make you a cauldron of fire which burns outside of reason…since it seems you have learned your theology from a sanitarium for the spiritually aphasic..God bless in your worship

      • Stephen

        There could be many abominations of desolation. Yes. by Antiochus, Herod, the Crucifixion. and so on. the only relevant one for this generation is the future Abomination of Desolation when the Man of Sin, the Antichrist, is seated in the Temple of God declaring himself to be God.

      • Stephen

        No need for all that trouble- just throw water at them and see which ones melt.
        OR wait for the teachings of the Church to change and see who is responsible.

      • aquiness

        We are watching you followers change the teachings, under your new popess, Mary Carberry. By the way she forgot to mention that great feast of Divine Mercy Sunday in her messages…and two canonisations were conveniently left out too. Of course Satan doesn’t want to know about this!

    • Chrisills

      We’ve all had our say, but now I think it’s time for all of us to be quiet, so this will be my last comment. Stephen isn’t going to change his mind and neither are we. Fraternal correction can only go so far. In the end you have to respect a persons free will. We must trust that any person of good will/conscience will be guided by the Holy Spirit into truth.

      This endless back and forth isn’t doing anyone any good and it’s just causing bitterness, you can see it in the tone of peoples words. This is not how Christians should be. The pagans in Paul’s time commented in the scriptures on how Christians loved one another. As with our protestant separated brethren, there is more that unites us than separates us.

      As to MDM I will take the advice of Gamaliel’s counsel to the Sanhedrin in Acts 5: 38-40, “So in the present case, I say to you, stay away from these men and let them alone, for if this plan or action is of men, it will be overthrown; 39 but if it is of God, you will not be able to overthrow them; or else you may even be found fighting against God.” 40 They took his advice; and after calling the apostles in, they flogged them and ordered them not to speak in the name of Jesus, and then released them.…”

      Time will be the true test of MDM and in my personal opinion, a short passage of time has shown her alleged messages to contain error & heresy, but I will leave people the right to their own thoughts. I only ask Catholics to remember – St. Paul Galatians, 1:8 “but even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed”. Gamaliel’s approach is wise. If something is not of divine origin it will fall by itself, so in the end we don’t need to be worried about MDM.

      • Fr.DuffyFighting69th

        Wise words, from a wise woman.

      • Chrisills

        Hi Duffy, you said ‘wise words, from a wise woman.’ That made me laugh.
        I’m actually a bloke mate. My first name is Christopher. But it’s good to know that I’m in touch with my feminine side, lol.

        Come to think of it, you weren’t trying to pull a bird for a date by asking me out for coffee were you? I’ll take it as a compliment, I don’t get many, lol.

      • Chris keep an eye on Duffy! 😉

      • Chrisills

        Aquiness, you’re right, I will keep an eye on him. All three of them.

      • Stephen

        Chrisills. The discussion ends when it ends. I’m here to convince the deceived not to follow the Destroyer. If you don’t like the back and forth just change channels. I speak in the Name of Jesus and am accountable to Him and His True Church that is so confused by the speculative theology found on this sight and can only be attributed to the diabolical disorientation infesting the Church . If anyone wants to kick me off this site be my guest, but as long as souls are at stake because of the poison being spewed here I’ll be around. By the way, you are welcome to join the conversation. You seem like a fellow that hasn’t sold out totally to the heresy of Modernism and religious indifferentism supported here that continues to worship pope Dalai as Mundabor correctly call him.

      • aquiness

        Chrisills…I’m staying so that you don’t lead any unsuspecting victim’s to Mary’s cave. 😛

      • aquiness

        Chrisills you posted….” I speak in the Name of Jesus….”

        No you don’t speak in the name of Jesus. Jesus gave authority to His Church..not to any individual!

        You posted…”… and am accountable to Him and His True Church that is so confused by the speculative theology”

        You mean Mary’s church, complete with new scripture, new feast days, and new sacramentals? If you knew the true faith you would know that private revelation is not on the same level as scripture. You would know that only the Church can designate new feast days and authorise sacramentals for the faithful. Mary, your popess, has changed the teachings so in effect you now belong to another church so please leave ours alone.

      • Fr.DuffyFighting69th

        What? No, I wasn’t trying to “pull” a bird. I am divorced and not annulled, so I am not eligible for such a thing. I was just looking for conversation. Sorry I got your gender confused. They were still wise words. At some point we will all need each other. So this division among catholics is very destructive. Peace.

      • Hi Duffy you posted…”What? No, I wasn’t trying to “pull” a bird. I am divorced and not annulled, so I am not eligible for such a thing……”

        Don’t worry Duffy we are only ‘pulling your leg’

        You posted…”.At some point we will all need each other. So this division among catholics is very destructive.”.

        Now those are wise words my friend!

      • Chrisills

        Hi Duffy, I’m just joking around mate, but sorry to hear about your marriage. God bless you for remaining faithful to the marriage covenant.

    • Chrisills

      Aquiness, I did not post ‘I speak in the name of Jesus’. Stephen did.

      This is exactly why I said previously that we’ve all had our say, and now it’s time for all of us to be quiet. Then you accuse me of leading people to MDM’s cave as you say, when I’ve been speaking against the alleged messages. You’re not even bothering to read what people have actually said.

      These comments have turned into nothing more than people rambling on about how much they know or think they know about God, the Faith, the Church etc. That is why I said I would no longer comment, and these later comments prove what I said previously.

      We all need to take the example of the monastic orders and learn to love silence. Be quiet and listen. Hold thy tongue.

      So goodbye and God bless us all.

      • aquiness

        Chrisills,

        As you said I made a mistake and replied to you instead of Stephen…so why are you getting fussed if we are on the same side?

        You posted….”We all need to take the example of the monastic orders and learn to love silence. Be quiet and listen. Hold thy tongue.”

        And while we are holding our tongue many more are getting sucked into the MDM cult. I understand your point of view, but I am not ready to leave until the last MDMer has left .

        God Bless You Too

      • PocketSketch

        Chrisills, If you feel your calling is to “be quiet and listen” follow that. Aquiness made an innocent error and given the hundreds of comments here, you must understand, it is rather a challenge to keep up. Kindly, be merciful and accept our apology.

        As for ordering us to, “Holy thy tongue” we have seen and heard this plea countless times from MDM’ers. After, the false prophetess, the high priestess of the new “Remnant Church”, Mary Carberry, learns to hold her tongue and apologize for all the harm she has inflicted on the Mystical Body of Christ will we stop hammering the heretic. Sadly, as has already been the case with so many false seers, even after they die, their cult followers continue to keep and propagate their false teachings in the field of the LORD. I refer to Necedah and Bayside to name just a couple. Have you never read St. Paul?

        “Who is lead to sin and I am not indignant?” 2 Cor.11:29

    • Chrisills

      PocketSketch, please don’t twist what I said. I didn’t ‘order’ anyone to hold thy tongue. I said we should learn from the example of the monastic orders in holding back from speech. Defending the faith is a noble thing, but there comes a point when talk ends up being just that. It becomes a form of spiritual pride and that applies to all of us.

      1 Timothy 1: 5-7
      5. “The goal of this command is love, which comes from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith. 6. Some have departed from these and have turned to meaningless talk. 7. They want to be teachers of the law, but they do not know what they are talking about or what they so confidently affirm.”

      1 Corinthians 13: 1-2
      1. “If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but do not have love, I have become a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. 2. If I have the gift of prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing.”

      This site has done a great service in exposing the alleged messages of MDM as have people like yourself who have pointed out the errors in them to other people.

      2 Timothy 4: 3-4
      3. “For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.”

      But in the end if people don’t accept that charitable correction, then we’ll just have to leave them be. Trust that if they are of good will/conscience the Holy Spirit will guide them into the truth. Oh yes I have read St. Paul many times. I’ve been reading the letter to the Romans all last week. Now I feel like I’m a clanging cymbal with this long post, lol. I suppose I’m contradicting myself with all this talk. See, no one’s perfect.

      Adiós my bro’s and ho’s.

      • Hi Chrisills,

        You posted…”But in the end if people don’t accept that charitable correction, then we’ll just have to leave them be. ”

        I understand where you’re coming from here but we have to remember that there are many vulnerable souls being lured into MDM’s camp still. Thankfully we are also seeing many coming out now as the messages become more rediculous. This is our aim…to point out to the followers the errors, contradictions and lies coming from the entity, in the hope that some will finally see the truth.

        You posted…”Trust that if they are of good will/conscience the Holy Spirit will guide them into the truth…..”

        If only they would listen to the Holy Spirit, our work would be finished! Sadly they are being led by Satan working through Mary Carberry. It’s her they listen to. Her newest commands are for the followers “not to follow and not to listen to any prayers nor Masses on line because they are getting contaminated very soon. ”
        Can you see where this is leading?

        The MDM seminars are now in Europe…enticing more unsuspecting victims!

      • Chrisills

        Hi Aquiness, I get where you’re coming from too.

        But don’t you think that all the proof that has been provided by the site and many people like yourself pointing out the errors to show to others and yet people still cling to this belief shows that in the end you have to respect the persons right to believe what they want to believe, even if it’s wrong.

        God always respects free will, because otherwise we wouldn’t truly be free. We have to do the same with our own Christian brothers & sisters. After all the Reformation was allowed to happen. God didn’t stop it. He respected peoples freedom to break from his Church. Just like when people left Jesus after he said you must eat my body and drink my blood to have eternal life. Jesus respected their decision to leave. Also the Lord said to preach the gospel but if the people of a certain place did not listen, leave and kick the dust off your sandals as you do so. Paul essentially did the same in his ministry. If he was accepted he would stay, if not, move to the next place.

        I would use Scientology as an example. People get attracted, and it gains some popularity and financial success, but it will fall. It is already falling as previous Scientologists come forward to tell their stories. The same will happen with all cults that are not of a divine origin.

        That’s why I think the approach of Gamaliel in the book of Acts is very wise. Time is the test and will out any falsehood.

        Out of interest, Gamaliel is buried in Pisa Cathedral after later coverting to Christianity, which doesn’t surprise me as he was Sauls/Pauls teacher. There is also a tradition, small ‘t’, that Gamaliel was one of the doctors who listened to the child Jesus preach when he was left at the temple. Cool stuff.

      • Hi Chris…There are more problems than you know about. Not only is the Pope being slandered and maligned by the MDM crowd, but we’ve heard that some of the families of these followers are suffering too. We’re dealing with the demonic and many innocent young people are being sucked in too.

        We’re just trying to bring the errors to their attention… if they choose to ignore them then there is nothing we can do… but we have to at least try. There are not just a few of us…there are many Catholics in other parts of the world trying to keep MDM out of their countries, and thankfully,some of their bishops have spoken out

        . Bishop Fabbro:

        “Maria of Divine Mercy is a woman who chooses to remain anonymous and has made claims of alleged privation revelations. Bishop Fabbro warns Catholics of the diocese that Maria of Divine Mercy has not received the Church’s approval. Indeed, Catholic bishops who have studied her teachings have declared that they are heretical and have forbidden priests to be involved with or cooperate in matters associated with Maria of Divine Mercy. Her prophecies contain material that is both false and contrary to Catholic teaching. The faithful should know that adhering to her teachings can result in grave sin.”

        “Bishop Fabbro warns Catholics that they should not be involved with Maria of Divine Mercy nor should they give credence to her messages.”

        ————————-

        Bishop of Spisska

        Dear Brothers and Sisters,

        I learned that in some parishes is widely spread messages about the so-called Great Day of God’s warnings, resulting from the alleged private revelations of an Irish visionary. These messages are distributed via the internet. I have found that it is heretical, which is not in accordance with the teachings of the Catholic Church and is showing signs of sectarianism. This whole doctrine is indeed poprepletaná prayers for God’s mercy and calls for confession, as well as what the Catholic Church teaches, but quotations from Scripture are commented and explained arbitrarily and contrary to the teachings of the Catholic Church. Similar tendencies were already in the early Church, therefore St.. Apostle Peter wrote: “Above all, you should know that no prophecy of Scripture does not allow private interpretation” (2 Peter 1: 20).
        After seeing this website I also found that believers are encouraged to acquire the “Seal of the living God” to be sanctified by a priest. We remind you that no priest faithful to Christ and his Church must cooperate in this matter, because they would be guilty of transgressions against the faith and his office. To anyone who will disseminate these heretical messages , remember the very severe words of the Holy Scripture, written by St. Apostle Paul to the Galatians:
        “I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel, which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse! (Gal 1, 6-9).
        All believers, who perhaps out of ignorance began to believe the messages mentioned, please I urge you to leave these heretical teachings and not spread them.
        On this matter, I was obliged, in order to highlight the purity of Catholic faith, obedience and unity with the Holy Father, and for the sake of salvation of your souls.

        Devoted to the Lord, Stephen Sečka, Bishop of Spisska

        .

      • Chrisills

        Hi Aquiness, thanks for the info. The statement of Stephen Sečka, the Bishop of Spisska and his great quote of 2 Peter, really sums it up in one sentence. It is also a good example against the protestant view of reading the scriptures, as you’ll get different interpretations and with that comes all the different protestant denominations. You really know your stuff, good on ya girl.

        I hope you don’t mind me saying this, but this is a bit of God’s providence on display here. Yesterday for some reason after reading the new testament I wanted to go into the old. Specifically, the book of Proverbs. I read the first three chapters. I would encourage you to read chapter 2 but here’s a small quote:-

        The blessings of wisdom
        Proverbs 2 : 7-12
        7. He has counsel in store for the upright, he is a shield of those who walk honestly. 8. Guarding the paths of justice, protecting the ways of his pious ones. 9. Then you will understand rectitude and justice, honesty, every good path; 10. For wisdom will enter your heart, knowledge will please your soul, 11. Discretion will watch over, understanding will guard you, 12. saving you from the way of evil men, from men of perverse speech.

        Blessed be God, blessed be his holy name, and his blessings be upon everyone who has commented here. We are all family after all.

      • Thank you for the beautiful scripture reading Chris. It’s true we are all family! 🙂

      • BRISBANE BISHOP WARNS AGAINST SPREADING MDM’S MESSAGES

        “I have examined some of these messages and found them to be patently fraudulent and corrosive of true Christian faith as the Catholic Church teaches it. The alleged recipient of the messages operates anonymously and refuses to identify and present herself to local Church authority for a theological examination of the content of her messages.
        The messages contain certain theological and historical errors some of which fall within the category of bogus millenarianism, and they are more likely to provoke fear rather than the peace of the Spirit. They play on elements o the Catholic faith only to undermine it at its core. Moreover, they are outrageous in their claims against Pope Francis. Therefore, the messages of Maria Divine Mercy are not to be taken seriously, discussed, or distributed within the Archdiocese of Brisbane.

        ———————————–

        Buffalo Bishop Prohibits Dissemination of Maria Divine Mercy’s Messages in Portland Diocese
        Posted: 27 Aug 2013 11:03 AM PDT

        Buffalo Bishop has prohibited dissemination of Maria Divine Mercy’s messages in the Diocese of Portland

      • Out of interest, Gamaliel is buried in Pisa Cathedral after later coverting to Christianity, which doesn’t surprise me as he was Sauls/Pauls teacher. There is also a tradition, small ‘t’, that Gamaliel was one of the doctors who listened to the child Jesus preach when he was left at the temple. Cool stuff.”

        Thanks…I hadn’t heard that he was buried in Pisa.

        Yes I have also heard that he listened to the 12 year old Jesus in the temple. 🙂

  47. w

    what make of the cross–at the ‘attached’:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/07/pope-francis-holiday-tired-rest_n_5462288.html

    also note triangle above it when enlarged

    i keep seeing things reported beforehand in the so-called prophecies, which is the first test for a prophet

    the second is fidelity to the word of our heavenly father whose scripture is approved by the church and with which all sacred tradition is to agree

    the third is believing and confessing our messiah come in the flesh

    and as for one calling him “lord,” as being impossible without having his spirit then the scripture says many will call him “lord” not in the spirit which of course will be dismissed at the division of sheep-goats–or is this division of sheep-rams…??? discuss…?<+3

    • ..the pectoral cross of the pope is silver ..which intimates his connection with the poverelo st francis….the image on the cross is depicted the good shepherd who has searched out and found the lost sheep..he carries this lost found sheep on his shoulders..instead of having the arms aside..the arms of the good shepherd are crossed at the breast meaning in the sign of the posture of receiving..traditionally this was the posture Jesus held when he was baptized in the Jordan…this posture of receiving the holy spirit hence holding the spirit or clutching inwardly yet the sign is given in an outward display…also we see the holy spirit descending as a dove and the remaining flock behiind the good shepherd..there is absolutely nothing wrong with this pectoral cross..the symbolism is very astutely executed..only someone with a superbly verdant and paranoid imagination would see anything remotely resembling pagan egypt worship inside this symbolic pectoral cross..yet one can never be too astonished to see what lengths a depraved mind will go to try and calumniate the POPE…calumny is a device of the devil and we see MDM is the devil’s advocate…MDM has claimed she is an angel which anyone with a primitive education in theology knows is false…a person is composite in nature meaning body (made of matter) and a soul ( made of immaterial substance)…an angel is only spirit (immaterial) no matter..yet sometimes angels use the bodily form as part of their mission when they are sent by God ..the proper meaning of angel is to be sent…yet an angel does not make such a bodily form that they use become alive in any sense of the word only in so far as they animate this form..yet angels do not need to eat or drink or upkeep the bodies they animate since such a body is not alive per se..as our body is alive in the accepted sense of the word….from thomas aquinas on the angels…”51. ANGELS AND BODIES

      1. Angels have no bodies. An intellectual nature (that is, a substantial essence equipped for understanding and willing) does not require a body. In man, because the body is substantially united with the spiritual soul, intellectual activities (understanding and willing) presuppose the body and its senses. But an intellect in itself, or as such, requires nothing bodily for its activity. The angels are pure spirits without a body, and their intellectual operations of understanding and willing depend in no way at all upon material substance.
      ……2. That the angels sometimes assume bodies is known from Holy Scripture. Angels appeared in bodily form to Abraham and his household; the angel Raphael came in the guise of a young man to be the companion of the younger Tobias.

      3. In bodies thus assumed, angels do not actually exercise the functions of true bodily life. When an angel in human form walks and talks, he exercises angelic power and uses the bodily organs as instruments. But he does not make the body live, or make it his own body.

      ..also MDM is false when she asserts Jesus gives plenary indulgences..Jesus’ sacrifice was sufficient for all men..and so he cannot grant anything ontop of what he already has done..if he did that would imply his sacrifice on the cross was sufficient…granting indulgences is a function of the apostles where they were given the keys to open and shut….so only popes or bishops can grant indulgences….there are 99 more heresies on the wall at least..and one if of those heresies happen to fall then there will be 98 more heresies to appear on the wall..etc etc…MDM is a hoax a scam and conjured from the moxy of a business lady who has more guts than brains..and has no shame dragging God or Jesus through the mud..it is quite a pity..seeing God made fun of and leading souls into confusion..

      • ..above should read..”that would imply his sacrifice on the cross was insufficient”…if he were to grant indulgences…

      • ..and so if this so called angel MDM..has to eat or sleep or drink water..or excrete waste (tinkle) or (break the seal) or(take a whiz) then you know she is a phony..because angels dont whiz….or pee or however you say it..so the only seal this MDM will break will be the one at the toilet…mmmm..honestly what a load of rubbish this MDM is..so much for the SEAL OF THE LIVING GOD that this MDM has people believing in…that too has a masonic symbol on it…the cross and crown which is a traditional masonic insignia also used by the JEHOVAH WITNESS …

      • Stephen

        john. Not sure why a cross and a crown would be Masonic. Also, I understand that “angel” simply means a messenger of God without respect to species.

      • ….in epistemology (the study of knowledge)..we have moral realism..which states..”there is no valid inference from nonmoral premises to moral conclusions unless one relies, at least surreptitiously, on a moral premise”…we need absolute facts..otherwise we can have no certitude about our moral premise…now Maria Divine MErcy is guilty of changing fixed laws of God..the eternal law which is an eternal unchanging FACT..indeed God has an antecedent will and a consequent will..however his absolute will never changes… yet Maria Divine MErcy is guilty of humanism…she is replacing fideism with rationalism and empiricism…this is interesting to note since many people who claim Pope Francis is the serpent..state wrongly that he is guilty of humanism..when really it is the other way round….the problem with this MARIA DIVINE MERCY is that she is doom mongering…it is a tactic of satan to get souls to concentrate on fear and doom…since there are two spiritual coins…one coin the coin of CHARITY..which is gotten through faith…both sides of this coin we have works and trust…then there is the coin of PRIDE…which is gotten through doubt….both sides of this coin we have mistrust and acedia (sloth)…..those people who wish to purchase heaven need to use the spiritual coin of CHARITY..yet the devil will counterfeit the coin of charity with the coin of pride…the doom mongers will get people to sit in fear and paranoia..this will subvert charity and result in souls who do nothing but sit and wait…they watch over the pope like abbots in a monastery looking to disclose his sins..or such souls wait and watch their neighbour or watch the world for signs of the end..in the meantime they do not exercise CHARITY….they do not work for God’s kingdom…they do not volunteer their services to works of temporal mercy…..this is how the devil deludes certain souls..into thinking they are doing a good work however …in reality they are doing nothing…..they are GREATLY DECEIVED….and the devil has succeeded in seducing souls who were once faithful to GOD..

      • w

        LOTS OF–WORDS THAT ARE IRRELEVANT+<3 wendy–"..because angels dont whiz" (seeing as it has already been said that ANGEL MEANS MESSENGER and your point is irrelevant)

      • …ANGEL means a spiritual entity that is immaterial with a will and an intellect but no lower appetites…the function of ANGELS are indeed messengers of GOD’S will…there is a difference between the function and the quiddity of something…

      • ..@ stephen…now you appear to be trying to discern..and you may feel now that because we are offering facts that contradict your self-styled ideas..that we are your enemies..this is not the case….if Jesus were the author of these messages and if these messages contained information that would impact the salvation of souls..then Jesus would not be ambiguous with his words….when he says 7th Angel and messenger he is not using ANgel as a term of endearment as you might call a child your ANgel..otherwise he would not predicate the word Angel with the designation 7th so as to confuse us into thinking of the 7 Angels of the Apocalypse….now how we know Angels are purely spiritual beings with only an intellect and a will…is from the Devil himself..the devil is fixed in hell ..you may ask yourself why??…the devil is an Angel that is fallen…and he has no chance of redemption as we humans do…this is because Angels do not use discursive reasoning as we do…from thomas aquinas teaching on the angels…” Human intellectual knowledge is developed step by step; man advances from what he knows to what, at the start, is unknown. The process of human learning is exampled in the manner in which we prove a theorem in geometry. This way of thinking things out, step by step, is called discursive thinking or reasoning. Now, if, in the light of some master truth, we could see all that is implied in our thoughts, we should not need to work out knowledge by discursive thought. We should not, for example, need to work out the theorem in geometry, for we should instantly take in the whole demonstration and understand it thoroughly without effort. An angel actually has this type of knowledge. An angel does not require discursive thinking. In whatever area of its natural knowledge the angelic intellect is employed, it sees the whole picture; it beholds the thing thought about together with its implications and consequences, and therefore has no need to move from point to point to round out knowledge.

        4. The human intellect forms ideas or concepts, and then compares these and pronounces judgment on their agreement or disagreement. Two ideas in the human mind are, when brought into comparison for judgment, in the relation of subject and predicate. When the predicate idea is found in agreement with the subject idea, the mind affirms the predicate of the subject, thus, “A stone is a substance.” The mind or intellect thus composes or compounds the two ideas into an affirmative judgment. And when the predicate and subject do not agree, the mind divides them by a negative judgment, thus, “A stone is not a spiritual substance.” Thus the human intellect works out its knowledge “by composing and dividing”; and from its judgments (made by composing and dividing) it works out other judgments by reasoning or discursive thinking. Now, the angelic intellect, as we have seen, has no need of this knowing process (of composing, dividing, reasoning), for its knowledge is not built up by abstraction from the peacemeal findings of senses. The angelic mind is like a clear mirror that takes in the full meaning of what it turns upon. Yet an angel understands our way of thinking and knows how we go about the business of composing, dividing, and reasoning.

        5. In the natural knowledge of an angel there can be no falsehood or error. An angel knows truly all that it knows, and all that can be said of the object of its knowledge. And it goes without saying that in its supernatural knowledge an angel knows all that God wills it to know, without error or falsehood. But the fallen angels (or demons) are totally divorced from divine wisdom, and hence, in things supernatural, there can be error or falsehood in their knowing.” ……and so the devil has no body which might hinder his ability to “see ” with his intellect..the devil knew his fate while he was making his choice yet he still made that choice..now the fallen angels are only guilty of pride, envy and wrath..because they have no concupiscent inclinations as we humans do (the flesh)..this is why we get chances to turn back to God..and the devil does not get these chances because his intellect is higher in scope….also each angel is its own species……there is not a species know as angelic..under which all angels fall…as with the human species…each angel is its own species..we know this from another complicated bit of theologcal kit..not necessary to mash out here..save to say if you were not so proud and sure of yourself…you would take the time to check it out..and if you had already done this before we would not be needing this conversation..since you would see readily that MDM is completely false..and in fact laughable..do as you please but dont say God didnt send people like aquiness or pocketsketch.. to help you out…this is how the HOly Spirit works…in communion..through our neighbour…any way enough for me i hope dont have to post anymore..because i am starting to get sick of myself..and i think this board has already banned my wordpress ip..so i am posting through facebook..bye for now

      • blackandwhiteblackandwhite@wordpress.com

        satanic talk you johnkonnor72–warning to all+<3–and this is from THE LORD ::confirm::

      • Stephen

        Hi johnkonnor. here’s my logic. If there are 99 supposed heresies on the wall and some of them can be argued not to be heretical, that would call into question the rest of them as simple lack of discernment. I simply don’t get it when it is said that Jesus cannot grant indulgences. We believe of course that the Church ( the Pope) can grant them and Jesus is the Head of this Body. Sorry, just don’t understand.

      • …it can be a complicated to affair to explain it…suffice to say…Jesus in his work on the Cross has provided satisfaction for the firgiveness of sins…an indulgence is not forgiveness…the forgiveness occurs after sacramental confession…however because sin casues a stain on the soul..which is not a material stain..through the action of sin a soul places an obstacle to the divine light (the action) and so this habit remains…what an indulgence does is help to remove all or part of the punishment..” An indulgence is the extra-sacramental remission of the temporal punishment due, in God’s justice, to sin that has been forgiven, which remission is granted by the Church in the exercise of the power of the keys, through the application of the superabundant merits of Christ and of the saints, and for some just and reasonable motive. Regarding this definition, the following points are to be noted:”..catholic encyclopedia…an indulgence places at our disposal the treausry of the merits of the saints and Christ..by the Power of the keys which is by the Word of God..which is a fully actualized command..absolute in nature..not contingent as say would be a warning from God….if Christ were to grant indulgences he would be contradicting the Word of God..which is impossible..if Christ were to grant an indulgence..this would mean the infinite merits of his passion were not sufficient for he would need to grant something on top of what he has already done….also the power of the keys is a part of the grace afforded by way of priviledge..and all grace emanates from Christ…and so Christ does not need to do twice that which he has accomplished once..for God is inviolate..and Perfect…

      • W

        tel-l ME about the TRIANGLE ABOVE THE CROSS please??? <+3wendy

  48. Stephen

    Aquiness. Now you criticize not only what appears in the messages, but what does not appear. Jesus can say or not say what He wants, and it is only your human understanding that wants to judge what He ought to be saying. Sounds a bit presumptuous. But you don`t accept them (the messages) anyway so why do I bother continuing to argue with you folks.
    Answer: I do care about my Catholic brothers and sisters who are being led by a deceptive, cunning imposter who will soon reveal his true colours .

    • Stephen

      By the way, you may ask why I am such an ardent defender of MDM. In 1982 Jesus told me that my generation would see His Second Coming.
      This is confirmed by many prophecies but especially the Fig Tree Prophecy of Matthew 24. Forget all the ridiculous twisted theology that tries to explain it away because Israel IS the fig tree and it came into existence in 1948. 1948 + 70 = 2018. Yes, no one can know the time (year) but it`s close.

      • aquiness

        Hi Stephen,
        You posted…” Now you criticize not only what appears in the messages, but what does not appear. Jesus can say or not say what He wants….”

        Jesus speaks through His Church and sometimes through special chosen souls. Now if you know your faith you will know that private revelation is not to be placed on the same level as scripture.

        To hear His voice you have to hear the Church. “Whoever listens to you listens to me; whoever rejects you rejects me; but whoever rejects me rejects him who sent me.” Luke 10-16 But YOU are NOT listening to the Church Stephen, you are listening to a hidden woman, whose writings are filled with errors. She is systematically bringing in new doctrines, new feast days and new sacramentals. My goodness you are in THE FALSE CHURCH and you don’t even know it!

        You posted…”By the way, you may ask why I am such an ardent defender of MDM. In 1982 Jesus told me that my generation would see His Second Coming.
        This is confirmed by many prophecies but especially the Fig Tree Prophecy of Matthew 24. Forget all the ridiculous twisted theology that tries to explain it away because Israel IS the fig tree and it came into existence in 1948. 1948 + 70 = 2018. Yes, no one can know the time (year) but it`s close.”

        So you are a seer too? How do you know it was Jesus? Many a person has listened to a voice telling them it is God they are hearing, when in fact it’s been Satan’s voice!

        I believe we are nearing the times prophesied in Scripture, and because of this I can tell you with all certainty that the only place to be is with Christ’s Church..and not listening to some poor deluded woman, who confessed that she didn’t know her faith before the entity started speaking to her.

      • johnkonnor

        ..@ stephen..you say Jesus told you that your generation would see the second coming..but this is false…since no one knows the day or hour…”But of that day and hour no one knoweth, not the angels of heaven, but the Father alone.”-Matthew 24:36….as well if Jesus told you the fig tree was to mystically represent ISRAEL..this is also FALSE..since Jesus does not Contrdict God’s word as it appears in scripture..since God and his word are perfect actuality..meaning these concepts are perfect immutable truths..once said God’s word never changes..and cannot be contradicted for this would imply that God’s word lacked power and sufficiency…what you are referring to when you say ISRAEL is the fig tree is the scripture verse ..HOSEA 9:10-“I discovered Israel like grapes in the desert, I discovered the sons of Israel as first fruits of the fig tree”..now this idea of ISRAEL being the fig tree is incorrect ..since in EZEKIEL 17:23…we see ISRAEL is also associated with the CEDAR…”On the high mountains of Israel will I plant it, and it shall shoot forth into branches, and shall bear fruit, and it shall become a great cedar: and all birds shall dwell under it, and every fowl shall make its nest under the shadow of the branches thereof.”….now when we cross reference scripture and we get obvious contradictions we know that Jesus is not the source of the exegesis..in this case the culprit is STEPHEN (above)..who makes the mistake..now we see from THOMAS AQUINAS..in his SERMON ON THE FEAST OF ST. NICHOLAS…correctly explains the meaning of the FIG TREE..for Jesus used the fig tree symbol for a specific reason ..otherwise he would say tree….and one could take this to mean of the genus of trees…meaning non specific characteristics of all trees not just the fig tree in itself…. we see what THOMAS AQUINAS writes concerning the fig tree….

        “The Lord discovered blessed Nicholas in these ways.

        First, He discovered in him something very rare, namely, virtue in the prime of his youth, which is rare among youths12; hence it says in Proverbs: Youth and pleasure are vain.13 This is a rara avis,14 namely, that as a youth he was not subject to vanity; and because blessed Nicholas preserved his holiness from childhood, he is said to have been discovered. For he himself “while still a little boy used to afflict his body with much fasting.”15 Also the saying in Hosea (9:10) [comes to mind]: I discovered Israel like grapes in the desert, I discovered the sons of Israel as first fruits of the fig tree.16 The fig ripens later than other fruits, but if it ripens in prime season it is said to be “discovered.”17 Likewise, children who preserve their holiness from childhood are called the first fruits of a fig tree and are said to be discovered, and this is pleasing to God; thus in Micah [we read] (7:1): My soul desired the first ripe figs.18 Fish and fruit in season are very much desired; so, too, very desirable to God is the man who carries the Lord’s yoke from his youth, as is said in Lamentations (3:27): It will be good for a man, when he has borne the Lord’s yoke from his youth,19 because a young man shall walk according to his way, even when he is old he will not depart from it (Prov. 22:6).20 At the same time, if such as these should depart from the path of holiness, they return to it more easily”…

        .here is the correct meaning of the fig tree symbol..a tree which matures at a later time..also if one understands science we know that the fig tree has a different type of fruit…in science it is known that
        The fig is a false fruit or multiple fruit, in which the flowers and seeds grow together to form a single mass….through infloresence…so this false fruit of the fig is particularly interesting since both adam and eve after their innocence was lost used the fig leaf to cover their naked bodies..symbolic of the fig leaf becoming a flag of infamy…so too we see that the fig was the first tree bred for agricultural use in the ancient cultures..and so when Jesus curses the fig tree this has a hidden symbolic meaning which is not for this discourse save to say….ISRAEL is not the fig tree for from the bible we see if we use the same discernment as STEPHEN then the fig tree could also be the CEDAR..which proves that JESUS is not speaking to STEPHEN..it may be his own imagination playing tricks on him or surely the voice of some demon trying to cause confusion among the faithful…

      • johnkonnor

        June 12, 2014 at 2:52 pm

        ..@ stephen..you say Jesus told you that your generation would see the second coming..but this is false…since no one knows the day or hour…”But of that day and hour no one knoweth, not the angels of heaven, but the Father alone.”-Matthew 24:36….as well if Jesus told you the fig tree was to mystically represent ISRAEL..this is also FALSE..since Jesus does not Contrdict God’s word as it appears in scripture..since God and his word are perfect actuality..meaning these concepts are perfect immutable truths..once said God’s word never changes..and cannot be contradicted for this would imply that God’s word lacked power and sufficiency…what you are referring to when you say ISRAEL is the fig tree is the scripture verse ..HOSEA 9:10-”I discovered Israel like grapes in the desert, I discovered the sons of Israel as first fruits of the fig tree”..now this idea of ISRAEL being the fig tree is incorrect ..since in EZEKIEL 17:23…we see ISRAEL is also associated with the CEDAR…”On the high mountains of Israel will I plant it, and it shall shoot forth into branches, and shall bear fruit, and it shall become a great cedar: and all birds shall dwell under it, and every fowl shall make its nest under the shadow of the branches thereof.”….now when we cross reference scripture and we get obvious contradictions we know that Jesus is not the source of the exegesis..in this case the culprit is STEPHEN (above)..who makes the mistake..now we see from THOMAS AQUINAS..in his SERMON ON THE FEAST OF ST. NICHOLAS…correctly explains the meaning of the FIG TREE..for Jesus used the fig tree symbol for a specific reason ..otherwise he would say tree….and one could take this to mean of the genus of trees…meaning non specific characteristics of all trees not just the fig tree in itself…. we see what THOMAS AQUINAS writes concerning the fig tree….

        “The Lord discovered blessed Nicholas in these ways.

        First, He discovered in him something very rare, namely, virtue in the prime of his youth, which is rare among youths12; hence it says in Proverbs: Youth and pleasure are vain.13 This is a rara avis,14 namely, that as a youth he was not subject to vanity; and because blessed Nicholas preserved his holiness from childhood, he is said to have been discovered. For he himself “while still a little boy used to afflict his body with much fasting.”15 Also the saying in Hosea (9:10) [comes to mind]: I discovered Israel like grapes in the desert, I discovered the sons of Israel as first fruits of the fig tree.16 The fig ripens later than other fruits, but if it ripens in prime season it is said to be “discovered.”17 Likewise, children who preserve their holiness from childhood are called the first fruits of a fig tree and are said to be discovered, and this is pleasing to God; thus in Micah [we read] (7:1): My soul desired the first ripe figs.18 Fish and fruit in season are very much desired; so, too, very desirable to God is the man who carries the Lord’s yoke from his youth, as is said in Lamentations (3:27): It will be good for a man, when he has borne the Lord’s yoke from his youth,19 because a young man shall walk according to his way, even when he is old he will not depart from it (Prov. 22:6).20 At the same time, if such as these should depart from the path of holiness, they return to it more easily”…

        .here is the correct meaning of the fig tree symbol..a tree which matures at a later time..also if one understands science we know that the fig tree has a different type of fruit…in science it is known that
        The fig is a false fruit or multiple fruit, in which the flowers and seeds grow together to form a single mass….through infloresence…so this false fruit of the fig is particularly interesting since both adam and eve after their innocence was lost used the fig leaf to cover their naked bodies..symbolic of the fig leaf becoming a flag of infamy…so too we see that the fig was the first tree bred for agricultural use in the ancient cultures..and so when Jesus curses the fig tree this has a hidden symbolic meaning which is not for this discourse save to say….ISRAEL is not the fig tree for from the bible we see if we use the same discernment as STEPHEN then the fig tree could also be the CEDAR..which proves that JESUS is not speaking to STEPHEN..it may be his own imagination playing tricks on him or surely the voice of some demon trying to cause confusion among the faithful…

      • Stephen

        Aquiness. Just so you actually see a real homily from the greatest Pope, Petrus Romanus:
        “Therefore let all the house of Israel know most certainly, that God hath made both Lord and Christ, this same Jesus, whom you have crucified. Now when they heard these things, they had compunction in their heart, and said to Peter, and to the rest of the apostles: What shall we do, men and brethren? But Peter said to them : Do penance, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ, for the remission of your sins: and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.” (Acts 2, 36-38)

        This is my Pope.
        St. Malachy told us that the last Pope to lead us against the Antichrist would be Peter. Not afraid to preach salvation to the Jews instead of cowing to the Synagogue of Satan that has usurped his Chair and is building Newchurch devoid of Christ and forcing the Remnant Church to go underground, as clearly prophesied, esp. in REV12.

        God will do nothing before telling his servants, the prophets. Since the modern Catholic conglomerate no longer believes in Prophecy or Prophets I choose to ally myself with the true Remnant Holy Roman Catholic Church and let the doubters and skeptics pick through Bergoglios ‘ anti-Catholic teachings for sustenance. God help you and I will be praying for you.

      • aquiness

        Hi Stephen,

        “The Church does not engage in proselytism. Instead, she grows by “attraction”: just as Christ “draws all to himself” by the power of his love, culminating in the sacrifice of the Cross, so the Church fulfills her mission to the extent that, in union with Christ, she accomplishes every one of her works in spiritual and practical imitation of the love of her Lord.—BENEDICT XVI, May 13th, 2007; vatican.va

      • aquiness

        Hi Stephen you posted…”God will do nothing before telling his servants, the prophets. ”

        Yes this is true and so he has told us in Scripture and through many true visionaries…St Faustina is one such visionary.

        You posted…”Since the modern Catholic conglomerate no longer believes in Prophecy or Prophets I choose to ally myself with the true Remnant Holy Roman Catholic Church”

        To believe in Scripture is to believe in prophecy.

        Yes we do have true prophets, but what you are failing to understand is the fact that we also have false prophets sent by Satan to lead the faithful in another direction. Mary was involved with a medium when she started receiving her visions. Do you realise that clairvoyants and psychics are condemned in scripture? If she was truly speaking to God He would NOT have told her Joe Coleman was a true seer and that she was the second visionary. Please use your common sense here Stephen! Her ‘jesus’ also told her that fr Marie Paul was a good person and contributed to the mission. It turns out that he is a schismatic bishop in the paedophile cult of the Little Pebble! So yes follow prophecy if you must, but please do yourself a favour and follow a true seer approved by the Church, at least one that isn’t condemned.

      • ..@ stephen..you say Jesus told you that your generation would see the second coming..but this is false…since no one knows the day or hour…”But of that day and hour no one knoweth, not the angels of heaven, but the Father alone.”-Matthew 24:36….as well if Jesus told you the fig tree was to mystically represent ISRAEL..this is also FALSE..since Jesus does not Contrdict God’s word as it appears in scripture..since God and his word are perfect actuality..meaning these concepts are perfect immutable truths..once said God’s word never changes..and cannot be contradicted for this would imply that God’s word lacked power and sufficiency…what you are referring to when you say ISRAEL is the fig tree is the scripture verse ..HOSEA 9:10-”I discovered Israel like grapes in the desert, I discovered the sons of Israel as first fruits of the fig tree”..now this idea of ISRAEL being the fig tree is incorrect ..since in EZEKIEL 17:23…we see ISRAEL is also associated with the CEDAR…”On the high mountains of Israel will I plant it, and it shall shoot forth into branches, and shall bear fruit, and it shall become a great cedar: and all birds shall dwell under it, and every fowl shall make its nest under the shadow of the branches thereof.”….now when we cross reference scripture and we get obvious contradictions we know that Jesus is not the source of the exegesis..in this case the culprit is STEPHEN (above)..who makes the mistake..now we see from THOMAS AQUINAS..in his SERMON ON THE FEAST OF ST. NICHOLAS…correctly explains the meaning of the FIG TREE..for Jesus used the fig tree symbol for a specific reason ..otherwise he would say tree….and one could take this to mean of the genus of trees…meaning non specific characteristics of all trees not just the fig tree in itself…. we see what THOMAS AQUINAS writes concerning the fig tree….

        “The Lord discovered blessed Nicholas in these ways.

        First, He discovered in him something very rare, namely, virtue in the prime of his youth, which is rare among youths12; hence it says in Proverbs: Youth and pleasure are vain.13 This is a rara avis,14 namely, that as a youth he was not subject to vanity; and because blessed Nicholas preserved his holiness from childhood, he is said to have been discovered. For he himself “while still a little boy used to afflict his body with much fasting.”15 Also the saying in Hosea (9:10) [comes to mind]: I discovered Israel like grapes in the desert, I discovered the sons of Israel as first fruits of the fig tree.16 The fig ripens later than other fruits, but if it ripens in prime season it is said to be “discovered.”17 Likewise, children who preserve their holiness from childhood are called the first fruits of a fig tree and are said to be discovered, and this is pleasing to God; thus in Micah [we read] (7:1): My soul desired the first ripe figs.18 Fish and fruit in season are very much desired; so, too, very desirable to God is the man who carries the Lord’s yoke from his youth, as is said in Lamentations (3:27): It will be good for a man, when he has borne the Lord’s yoke from his youth,19 because a young man shall walk according to his way, even when he is old he will not depart from it (Prov. 22:6).20 At the same time, if such as these should depart from the path of holiness, they return to it more easily”…

        .here is the correct meaning of the fig tree symbol..a tree which matures at a later time..also if one understands science we know that the fig tree has a different type of fruit…in science it is known that
        The fig is a false fruit or multiple fruit, in which the flowers and seeds grow together to form a single mass….through infloresence…so this false fruit of the fig is particularly interesting since both adam and eve after their innocence was lost used the fig leaf to cover their naked bodies..symbolic of the fig leaf becoming a flag of infamy…so too we see that the fig was the first tree bred for agricultural use in the ancient cultures..and so when Jesus curses the fig tree this has a hidden symbolic meaning which is not for this discourse save to say….ISRAEL is not the fig tree for from the bible we see if we use the same discernment as STEPHEN then the fig tree could also be the CEDAR..which proves that JESUS is not speaking to STEPHEN..it may be his own imagination playing tricks on him or surely the voice of some demon trying to cause confusion among the faithful

    • PocketSketch

      Stephen, You lost all credibility when you called our beloved Pope the Destroyer.
      “I’m here to convince the deceived not to follow the Destroyer.” June 12, 2014

      That title “the destroyer” derives from the book of Revelation. In chapter 9 a plague of locusts is released on the earth to torture the wicked, the people who “did not have the seal of God on their foreheads.” This army of locusts is led by their king, an angel of the abyss, named Abaddon. v.11
      Abaddon: Hebrew for destruction or ruin. Apollyon: Greek for the “Destroyer.”

      John Gills, British Baptist pastor wrote in his “Exposition of the Old and New Testaments” many such anti-Catholic slurs. It is known as his magnum opus. He was a strong Calvinist and Stephen’s thinking seems to be drenched in it. Some of the remnant army, who pride themselves on being the last of the faithful, should take a long, hard look at Gill’s commentary.

      “Abaddon is the Pope of Rome,” “the Romish antichrist reigns,” “nothing can come near this “Abaddon”, but the beast, the son of perdition. (2 Thes. 2:3.) And to him, the pope of Rome, may the name be truly applied, who has led thousands into perdition, and will go into it himself; and both he, and the false prophet, with the devil, will be cast into the lake, which burns with fire and brimstone, and will be tormented for ever and ever, (2 Thes. 2:4)

      Note the parallels with Carberry’s messages who likewise has cursed Pope Francis:

      “To those enemies of Mine, who walk amongst you and who mislead My Church, know this. . . Your allegiance to the evil one will end in disaster for you and everyone you manage to deceive. When you try to advance towards the Gates of Heaven to boast of your allegiance to Satan, you will be cut down, chained and cast into the abyss, without any Mercy shown to you.” Jan.2, 2014

      “Don’t ever attempt to stand in the way of God’s Ministry, for the Heavens will open and you will be the first to be struck down with the false prophet [Pope Francis] and the beast, on the last day.” Carberry, Dec. 4, 2013

      “THE FALSE PROPHET [Pope Francis] and HIS COHORT, THE ANTICHRIST” Sept.19, 2013

      Like we have been trying to warn the victims of this condemned seer, you are in the company of strange bedfellows. For heaven’s sake, turn on the light.

      • Thanks PocketBook…As we can see Mary does sound like the false prophet, John Gills. 😦

        If they knew Scripture they would know that God does NOT condemn anyone before an action. Even after a crime we are urged to pray for the sinner to be reconciled with God. Mary tells us Francis is already doomed…and he has done nothing wrong! That is not my God talking – only Satan talks like that..

        But anyway Stephen many are now leaving Mary’s cult..Praise the Lord! Soon there will only be the Sedes, the weak of faith, the thoroughly disobedient and the wicked remaining in Mary Carberry’s army.

        God is pulling them out. 🙂

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